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He is right. Deeply and stupidly wicked describes her perfectly. She needs to be publicly excommunicated. I’m sick of this “ self excommunicated” nonsense that the bishops use to let themselves off the hook.
Nails it. For some reason the bishops have decided that they can teach without discipline. Publicly telling someone you disagree with them isn’t discipline. It simply gives the impression that the issue at hand must not really be too big a deal when you get right down to it. Any sane 1st grade teacher knows this.
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I don’t know why the Church should stop at asking Pelosi to stop receiving Communion.
They should excommunicate her and have her arrested for trespass,should she ever step inside another Catholic Church.
They won’t of course.
I don’t know why Pelosi hasn’t been publicly excommunicated.
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According to the teachings of the Church, she has excommunicated herself by her persistantly evil behavior.
But that isn’t enough, because this causes a public scandal and leads many other Catholics into sin.
Yes, the two bishops in question should both deny her communion. And they should decide which of their two dioceses she belongs to, and that bishop should excommunicate her for public scandal.
This has gone on far too long. Not only do these bishops owe it to their flocks, and to Catholics everywhere, but they owe it to Pelosi—because she is presumably in a state of mortal sin and it is no kindness to her to permit her to delude herself any longer that she is not.
Our bishops, so far, do the absolute minimum they can without losing all moral authority in this. The Catholic flock has its own problems, but the American episcopacy, with a few exceptions, are definitely the weakest link in our society.
Watch them: Obama will give them some compromise, perhaps widening the conscience exception to some school and hospital staff under some conditions (to be overturned later piecemeal by the courts). That will be it: the bishops will trundle back to their reservations and the untold number of Catholic employers will be stuck with paying for abortions or paying fines and losing their businesses.
Your Excellency? Your Eminence?
Nancy, you are fooling yourself and I fear fooling many good Catholics You are simply not in sync with the Catholic Church and until you change your non-Catholic positions should stop calling yourself Catholic. Your record shows that you support embryonic stem cell research, planned parenthood, contraception, family planning funding, allowing minors to have an abortion without parental consent, and are against making it a crime to harm a fetus, etc. etc. The fact that you favor married priests and women priests certainly would not classify you as conservative, but here is your answer to the question: “Are you a conservative Catholic?”
“I think so. I was raised, in a very strict upbringing in a Catholic home where we respected people, were observant, were practicing Catholics and that the fundamental belief was that God gave us all a free will and we were accountable for that, each of us. Each person had that accountability, so it wasn’t for us to make judgments about how people saw their responsibility and that it wasn’t for politicians to make decisions about how people led their personal lives; certainly, to high moral standards, but when it got into decisions about privacy and all the rest, than that was something that individuals had to answer to God for, and not to politicians.” (National Catholic Reporter, 1-22-03) That sounds fair and tolerant, but your record belies high moral standards.
The NARAL rates you 100% pro-abortion. Your statement in Newsweek Magazine (10-23-06): “To me it isn’t even a question. God has given us a free will. We’re all responsible for our actions. If you don’t want an abortion, you don’t believe in it, [then] don’t have one. But don’t tell somebody else what they can do in terms of honoring their responsibilities. My family is very pro-life. They’re not fanatics and they’re not activists. I think they’d like it if I were not so vocally pro-choice.”
We elect politicians to make laws that help people honor their responsibilities, such as protecting life itself. Can politicians tell someone else not to kill? I fail to understand why you can favor partial birth abortion. How can you explain that it is proper to bring a baby part way out of the birth canal and then stick a scissors in its head to suck out the brains? Is it possible that votes mean more to you than life itself?
Yes, Nancy, we would all like it if you were not so vocally pro-choice , i.e. pro-death. Until your choice is in line with Catholic doctrine, please, Nancy, do not receive the Eucharist when you attend Mass.
–Rev. John Malloy, SDB
Nancy, you are wrong, and here are a slew of bishops and other denomations's pastors to tell you so.
Standing with the Bishops [Catholic Caucus]
Updated: *167* Bishops (More Than 90% of Dioceses) Have Spoken Out Against Obama/HHS Mandate
Updated: *153* Bishops (Over 80% of Dioceses) Have Spoken Out Against Obama/HHS Mandate
An Affront Catholics Agree On [Liberal and Conservative Catholics Against Obama Mandate]
Army Silenced Chaplains Last Sunday
Catholic Military Archdiocese & Chaplains interfered with last Sunday by Pres. Obama’s Admin
The Anti-Catholic President v. the Catholic Bishops
Sen. Rubio introduces bill to reverse Obama birth control mandate
Churches balk at birth control rule - Catholics won’t comply, Bishop Kevin Rhoades says
Protestants and Jews declare to White House: We stand with Catholics
Checking the Air Outside [Bp. Zubik's follow up to Obama's “To Hell with You”]
Mohler [Southern Baptist] Says Insurance Mandate Not Just 'Catholic' Issue
An Open Letter to President Barack Obama Concerning Recent Tyranny (With Pictures!)
Lincoln bishop: prepare for 'suffering' under HHS mandate
Bishop David Zubik confronts Obama
Obama’s ‘war on the church’
Pope hits out at 'radical secularism'
‘We Will Not Comply’: Catholic Leaders Distribute Letter Slamming Obama Admin Contraceptive Mandate
‘We Will Not Comply’: Catholic Leaders Distribute Letter Slamming Obama Admin Contraceptive Mandate
Bruskewitz: Fight Insurance Ruling [Sebelius a "bitter, fallen away Catholic"]
Letter from Archbishop John G. Vlazny on the matter of freedom of conscience and decisions by HHS
Bishop Olmsted's Letter to Catholics [Catholic Caucus]
Liberty for the Amish & Quakers but not Catholics. . .
Contraception mandate prompts Peoria bishop to instate St. Michael Prayer (Catholic Caucus)
Phoenix bishop (Olmstead): defy feds on birth control
A letter from Archbishop Dennis M. Schnurr concerning HHS edict
Speak honestly: abortion is ‘the killing of tiny human beings in the womb’ – Denver bishop
Bishop [Daniel Jenky] Blasts Secularist Intolerance, Calls For ‘Assertive Action’ to Defend Church
(Pittsburgh Bishop Zubik comments:) HHS delays rule on contraceptive coverage
Dolan: Natural law, not religious preference, dictates all life sacred
Religious leaders blast HHS over contraception mandate
Mandated Contraception, Sterilization: Caesar Demands Church Violate Conscience
OBAMA’S CONTEMPT FOR RELIGIOUS LIBERTY (mandates coverage of sterilization & contraception)
Implications of Obama Admin move to force Cath hospitals to provide contraception and sterilizations
Catholic doctors’ group launches petition against contraception mandate
Contraception mandate tramples religious freedom, US bishops say
PS. Obama is wrong too!
I'd like to see her bishops (if they won't go the bell, book and candle route) call a press conference and announce that Mrs. Pelosi has chosen in fact to "stick with" the powers of Hell in their enduring war against humanity; this is bigger than bureaucratic gnawing at Catholic rights. I think wording in that vein would attract some press attention!
Did anyone else notice that some of the bishops' letters (I only read a few) duplicate paragraphs -- did the USCCB issue a form letter they could use to copy or borrow from? I found it kind of deflating . . .