Posted on 02/03/2012 6:05:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Park Romney says some pretty wild things.
Mormonism, he writes on the Web site parkromney.com, is an insidious contemporary fraud.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is an American cult, he professes.
Mitt Romney, he claims, would be conflicted in office because obedience to the leadership of the Mormon Church is part of the covenant of the temple ordinances to which Mitt Romney is absolutely a party.
Were you to come across a man articulating such views on a street corner, you probably would give him a wide berth and look over your shoulder to make sure he wasnt following you.
But Park Romney, apostate Mormon, is no street-corner eccentric. He is Mitt Romneys second cousin. Church documents and archival research done by The Posts Lucy Shackelford trace Parks lineage to Miles Park Romney, who is also Mitts great-grandfather.
The two men have never met. (Miles Park Romney had 30 children, which means Mitt Romney has scores of cousins.) And, based on what Park has been writing, hes not likely to get a dinner invitation from Mitt anytime soon. Gov. Romney has never heard of this person, and he doesnt know him, campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul said....
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Happy birthday aaaaannnnd many more!
Well, it is important that Christians not put over themselves and our nation, an anti-Christian cult leader, who desires to be President of the United States ,to make it easier for his cult to convert Christians.
We need to support Newt Gingrich.
And most of them FLDSers have the government support those kids. It’s kind of like communism in suspenders. Uncle Rulon. Uncle Mitt. You get the picture.
Rmoney bump
I am definitely supporting Gingrich. I just happen to think Romney is the sneakiest of the sneaky, dirtiest, low down mean frat man there is.
He’s greasy-haired, wild eyed and older looking but I still see spoiled, rich, punk, frat boy— every time I look at him.
I certainly don’t begrudge wealth but sometimes money can ruin a person and I think it did Romney, something is missing in that man.
I think he believes he can buy his way into any and everything, that’s ruined, in my opinion. And he lies and denies like hades!
Thank you both!!
What ruined Mitt is being a cultist, the Romneys immigrated here in 1841 as freshly converted Mormons, having been converted in England, they came to America to serve Joseph Smith.
For 171 years the Romney line has been devoted to Mormonism and is one of it’s most powerful, wealthiest families, the Bishop Romney, is weird because he is a cult leader, part of a 171 year line of a cult family.
Romney has been trained to lie by professional instructors, and was sent into the field to hone that talent with years of field practice. He has been doing it all of his life. Romney knows that he himself will become a God, it is his faith.
February 4? Well, now it’s your birthday!
And Yes GOP, that's my damned honest perception of Mittens. Freeking screwups.
Jim Robinson: Yes, Park Romney is an ex-mormon, and he is being used to attack Romney (kind of). But he is also called a spokesman for the Gay pride movement in Utah.
If you read the article, Milbank links to a page Mitt Romneys Cousin Speaks Out On Gay Rights And Marriage with a podcast in which Park defends the homosexual lifestyle and attacks the mormon church for saying that LBGT people aren't born that way and are sinful and need to repent. Park Romney attacks the mormon church for not supporting the LGBT agenda.
I believe we SUPORT opposition to the LGBT agenda here at FR. I believe we would normally oppose and not speak well of a person who advocated for the homosexual agenda.
I feel like I'm being attacked because I didn't praise Park Romney and embrace his comments -- As Ansel12 said: "an ex-mormon has been hurt by Romney's cult, the man is speaking out against that cult."
But Park Romney was at an LBGT rally against the mormon church, Here is my poorly done quick transcript of Park's comments in the referenced podcast, speaking of LGBT people, where he attacks not just mormons, but all religions which oppose gay rights:
"There's a lot in the book that is relevant to the gay right's issues ... There are paradigms in religion .. that have us seeing and judging in ways that we don't see we are judging ... I appreciate the blindness [about LBGT issues\ because I was blind. ... I've been on the hard end of that road as an apostate. Once judged as evil, and then treated dismissively thereafter, that's a hard road [talking about LBGT people being judged]. "That's what was offensive about Packer's remarks ... the difficulty that I struggle with is that to love someone is to understand the reality of what they are ... I don't think love is legitimately claimed by those who choose not to see and accept the reality of what people really are [gay], and want to paint their own caractature of it." That's why I was ashamed of sitting on the side of the gay issues."
I ask: was I supposed to embrace an apologist for the gay agenda, because he also is an ex-mormon being used to attack Mitt Romney? I can feel bad for the guy being raised in a cult, and maybe that has warped his world view, but do I have to accept his attacks on churches for opposing the LBGT lifestyle, just because he is attacking the mormons specifically, and being used to attack Romney?
OK, to my comment: my comment did not deal in any way with mormonism, or Park. It was also political, and didn't belong therefore in a religion forum.
The article is a Washington Post article from Dana Milbank, a known leftie who loves to attack conservatives. So even though this time he took an indirect shot at Romney, his article, which I have now read, isn't written as an attack on Romney. To the extent you can make sense out of what Dana has written, it is an attempt to defend Obama from attacks related to his illegal immigrant relatives.
I saw Milbank's name, read the 1st sentence (before clicking on the article), clicked but missed the "religion" label, and figured Dana was going to make fun of a crazy cousin. I used three examples I KNEW conservatives would agree with me about to illustrate the problem with attacking people for their relatives. I apparently did so poorly.
Reagan was the first person I was able to vote for, and I did so proudly. Nobody should think I was really saying we shouldn't have voted for Ronald Reagan because he had Ronnie Reagan as a son. That was the point I made. My comment about Newt mentioned his ex-wife, whose attack was UNIVERSALLY condemned here. And I mentioned the attack on Santorum through his wife, which I condemned in the threads.
I apologize for not being more obvious, but I hope this clears up the confusion -- I was NOT attacking Ronald Reagan for ronnie, or Herman Cain for his wife, or Newt Gingrich for his ex-wife, or Santorum for his wife's ex-boyfriend. I'm sorry that another freeper believes that was my intent, but it wasn't.
I apologized already and apologize to you directly now for the fact that my comment could be seen as defending Romney. I don't think Dana Milbank attacking Mitt Romney for what Milbank calls a "wacky relative" is a particularly effective attack, and I am on record on principle as opposing guilt-by-association arguments, but because it IS Mitt Romney, I should have made it clear that my comments weren't specific to the case.
Since this is a religion thread, I'll refrain from discussing the political aspect of the article, except to note that in the end, the point of the article wasn't to attack Romney, but to defend Obama, Here's the relevant part of the article:
The Obamas have continued the tradition. When Onyango Obama was charged with drunk driving outside Boston last year, it became national news, even though the president had no contact with his lost Uncle Omar.Here is Dana's real goal; to innoculate Obama of any responsibility for allowing his illegal uncle to stay in the country.
Among those calling publicly for the mans deportation: Mitt Romney. Likewise, Zeituni Onyangos immigration case unknown to her nephew Barack became big news days before his election in 2008.Again, Dana is defending Obama, this time for his other illegal alien relative.
Clearly, I screwed up because this was a religion thread, and therefore had nothing to do with the point of the article.
I didn’t know all that.
I just know I don’t want Obama or Romney for president.
I want Gingrich to out-fox team Romney and this Mormon angle seems like a snare.
Maybe I am wrong but I just hope Gingrich doesn’t tread there.
Of course he is. He wants to be a god of another planet someday.
Thank you for keeping your post short, and not making it about you, and not twisting it into yet again, a defense for Romney.
I’m going to say thank you for that response. I think you were either poking fun at me, or being too kind, in saying I made my post short, but that’s OK, I do write verbosely.
And again, I’m sorry for wandering into a religion thread. I’ve really been trying to avoid these.
Good grief.
You will NEVER learn!
Yeah, candidates themselves can’t do a lot of the things that need to be done, Gingrich will pretty much stay away from religion, but others can sure bring it to the public’s attention.
ansel12, I feel so sorry for you. You can say what you will but it is still a cult.
You haven't been around very long if you think ansel12 is not knowledgeable about mormonism. Pay attention please.
We got that sorted out, everything is fine, it was just reading to quickly.
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Yep, because only freepers ever read the Washington Post.
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