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To: vladimir998
Revisionist nonsense. The founders were no fan of the RCC, and the RCC was opposed to Enlightenment Republicanism.

Any fifth columnist who puts loyalty to a foreign clerical monarch over our Constitution has no business living here. That isn't "anti-Catholicism" that is the truth.

11 posted on 02/02/2012 7:54:31 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: Clemenza

You wrote:

“Revisionist nonsense.”

Nope.

“The founders were no fan of the RCC,”

Who said they were otherwise?

“and the RCC was opposed to Enlightenment Republicanism.”

Thank God.

“Any fifth columnist who puts loyalty to a foreign clerical monarch over our Constitution has no business living here.”

Jesus is a foreign clerical monarch. And Jesus doesn’t care about the constitution of any earthly nation.

“That isn’t “anti-Catholicism” that is the truth.”

No, it’s anti-Catholic, and anti-Christ too.


15 posted on 02/02/2012 8:14:42 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Clemenza

Amen & Amen!
My history gives all evidence that our founders labored so hard to not be under any Roman Catholic Type government, nor any other denomination.
They purposed to have “A Nation under God” and our national motto: “In God We Trust”
And freedom of religion (not freedon from religion)


22 posted on 02/02/2012 8:31:25 PM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: Clemenza
"Revisionist nonsense. The founders were no fan of the RCC, and the RCC was opposed to Enlightenment Republicanism. "

Given the opportunity, Jefferson would have hung the Pope. He would have been torn on whether to give him a trial first.

23 posted on 02/02/2012 8:34:01 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Clemenza

You’re the one spouting ridiculous nonsense. You’re faced with direct documentation of the Catholic position towards democracy and the ideals of the Declaration of Independence, and you negate them not with any reasoned argument, but with simple bigotry.

If you knew anything about Catholic Just War theory, you’d be aware how your presumption that any papist must be inherently a fifth columnist is pure slander and counter-logical. For as much as heretical left-wingers are driven mad by it, Catholic Just War theory leaves to the representative leader of the State the authority to determine the existence of a just casus belli.

Washington, in fact, was intimate friends with the founder of the premiere American Jesuit university named in his honor, Georgetown. This founder, Fr. John Carroll, was the de facto Catholic prelate of the United Staes, and was the man Washington summoned to his deathbed.


32 posted on 02/02/2012 9:29:27 PM PST by dangus
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To: Clemenza

You’re the one spouting ridiculous nonsense. You’re faced with direct documentation of the Catholic position towards democracy and the ideals of the Declaration of Independence, and you negate them not with any reasoned argument, but with simple bigotry.

If you knew anything about Catholic Just War theory, you’d be aware how your presumption that any papist must be inherently a fifth columnist is pure slander and counter-logical. For as much as heretical left-wingers are driven mad by it, Catholic Just War theory leaves to the representative leader of the State the authority to determine the existence of a just casus belli.

Washington, in fact, was intimate friends with the founder of the premiere American Jesuit university named in his honor, Georgetown. This founder, a former Jesuit named Archbishop John Carroll, was the de facto Catholic prelate of the United Staes, and was the man Washington summoned to his deathbed. His brother was a signatory to the Declaration of Independence.


33 posted on 02/02/2012 9:31:10 PM PST by dangus
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To: Clemenza; Campion; hinckley buzzard
clemenza: Any fifth columnist who puts loyalty to a foreign clerical monarch over our Constitution has no business living here

wait a minute -- are you saying Catholics are not welcome in the USA?

64 posted on 02/03/2012 1:55:27 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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