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1 posted on 01/08/2012 12:46:16 PM PST by bkopto
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Just......unreal and “nightmarish”...

Pray for our nation.


2 posted on 01/08/2012 1:03:17 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: bkopto

I occasionally read these stories written by people unfamiliar with college culture. This is not exclusive to elite law schools or elite universities more generally. These sorts of views and this culture is pervasive at colleges throughout the US and in such nations as Australia. It has been pervasive for a couple of decades, at least.

It may seem implausible to people outside academia but, I assure you, it is deeply rooted and pervasive. For years, it has excluded alternative views.


3 posted on 01/08/2012 1:03:29 PM PST by iacovatx (If you must lie to recruit to your cause, you are fighting for the wrong side.)
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To: bkopto

Newt mentioned a piece of this last night.

Christians are under fire. Catholic Orphanages are being closed, soon Catholic Hospitals will be closed because they refuse abortions. Soon Catholic Doctors may face law suits for refusing to kill a fetus.

This is all just a part of what the ACLU , Atheists,Liberals and Obama have in store for us.

Freedom of religion is why this country exists today and it’s going away fast.


4 posted on 01/08/2012 1:04:07 PM PST by Venturer
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To: bkopto

Ask the Professor what would happen if he expressed such views in an Islamic country. Then ask him if there is any distinction of what he would suggest to do to the Catholics versus what the Islamists would do to him.


5 posted on 01/08/2012 1:04:30 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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This is either a country of Christians who will stand or it will be a totalitarian nightmare.

Freedom is a gift from God. Cut your ties to God and you will lose your freedom. I never saw it as plainly until recent years but it becomes more plain and more clear every day.


6 posted on 01/08/2012 1:07:55 PM PST by marron
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Christianity, as currently professed, is committed to egalitarianism, thus it cannot effectively resist sodomite demands. Christianity is being hoisted on its own petard.


7 posted on 01/08/2012 1:08:02 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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you’ve got to beware of giving government the power to exclude nthe “bad”. One day you might find that you are one of them


8 posted on 01/08/2012 1:11:23 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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12 posted on 01/08/2012 1:18:22 PM PST by narses
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What will happen is that we - practicing Catholics - will be marginalized, ostracized and persecuted. Between the secularists and Islamists we are in for terrible times ahead. The kinds of things happening in Eygpt, Nigeria, Indonesia and elsewhere are coming soon to a town and church near you.

We've already had incidents of terrorism, such as the Ft. Hood Shooter here at home. Soon the War Against Christmas will turn violent here as it has in Nigeria, where the Christmas Church Bombing of 12/25/2011 occurred.

I pray daily for my children, who are growing up in an environment more hostile to Christianity than anytime in recent history.

Etiam non princeps sed usque ad genua, Principis Pacis!
14 posted on 01/08/2012 1:24:53 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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They (we) will be discriminated against, ‘re-educated’, held without trial or evidence, and eventually killed if they (we) don’t submit.

I have pretty much come the realization that I will either be killed or imprisoned by my own government because of my Christian faith. But I will go down fighting.


15 posted on 01/08/2012 1:27:20 PM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I'm the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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The word "Christan" keeps being thrown around like there is unanimity among the the "Christian" groups.

But the truth is that the Anglicans have been ordaining practicing homosexuals for years and has even elevated them to the level of Bishop.

There was a piece on 60 minutes about a year ago in which the Baptists have ordained women and are officiating at same sex unions.

16 posted on 01/08/2012 1:28:31 PM PST by verga (We get what we tolerate and increase that which we reward)
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The seeds for a second American revolution are being planted.


17 posted on 01/08/2012 1:35:01 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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“what can Catholics expect?”

Jesus told all Christians what to expect in John 16:2.

“They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.”

That’s what you signed up for when you became a Christian. Wanna quit?


18 posted on 01/08/2012 1:36:30 PM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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It is unconstitutional to acknowledge SSM as a “right”. It is absurd. It is unnatural and against God’s Laws and against Moral Law-—which comes from Natural Law Theory—the Basis of our Constitution. Right Reason-—means based on Logic, Reason and Science. Biology decries—putting body parts in incompatible holes-—and it can’t sanction such stupid acts and behaviors. It denies natural rights of offspring and destroys the idea of Duty-—inherent in Just Law and the reason for any social contracts.

Their is NO REASONING in laws which find “Rights” is stupid, dysfunctional and unnatural behaviors. All twin studies PROVE that it is learned behavior-—just as the orientation to rape babies or bestiality. We are not born with “urges” to defile body parts and the law (and media) should never glorify this evil act.

Sodomy is evil. They are forcing the laws to conform to other than “the laws of nature” into a pathetical illogical, unscientific laws-—TOTALLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. God is the Standard of Right and Wrong in our legal system-—all Jurisprudence proves that and states it in cases throughout our history. The idea of Supra Positive Law is from our Constitution—and it will always state that sodomy is evil and unconstitutional to establish as a “right”. Utter stupidity and evil.


20 posted on 01/08/2012 1:37:57 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature=Just Law.)
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This process is already well along the way. Right now seminars are being put on by my state’s bar association to “educate” all lawyers about the same-sex union act that went into effect on 1/1, and what our responsibilities now are as lawyers to recognize this “civil right.”


22 posted on 01/08/2012 1:40:32 PM PST by kaehurowing
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I remember the controversy when the Christian Scientists refused to subject their children to chemo


27 posted on 01/08/2012 2:04:38 PM PST by uncbob
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Ladies, gentlemen,
we will eventually be ostracized, and same-sex unions will likely be the mechanism used, primarily.

Laws and regulation are useful to the left as a means of correcting what they deem as either irrational or inappropriate behavior. But they do not apply to the left. And the usefulness of championing SSM is not so much doing of right, in light of the left’s love of “moral relativism,” but precisely because it may be employed to destroy the traditional family, and thus, American society as a whole.

Not to mention how pervasive political correctness is in the corporate world. I spent many years quietly enduring exposure to “inclusiveness” and “diversity” gabble at company meetings. I’m sure many here have. That PC garbage will ensure that at least some relatively malleable folks, or those ill-equipped with the facts may feel that SSM isn’t “so bad.”

For the momentum to be stopped, among other things, the regime would have to change, with the new one being a literal 180º from the current one. Every head office would have to have a mandate to immediately rework this garbage, out of the system. And that doesn’t take into account existing laws, or the time between now and the election. I don’t bet. If I did, it’d be very tempting to say that it’s a bet that the admin will move like lightning to get it done by election time. Not so much the oppression of we who oppose it, yet, but implementation of a national SSM law, or at least a bill.

I think we’ll see this happen. And I think the second-class citizen treatment will happen, too. Look at it this way. MF Global went down Oct. 31. No one arrested. Customers funds frozen, and liable, perhaps, to clawback. Corzine walks through a soft testimony. No laws enforced. BK misfiled so creditors come first, not customers. If the administration’s friends and fund-raisers can be this blatant, where is the impetus for them to stop? It may not be immediate, but it will be soon. Pray.


32 posted on 01/08/2012 2:37:17 PM PST by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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**.” What are we to expect, then, from those who are even less “open to other viewpoints”?**

Like God?

I don’t think the professor would like God’s answer to him on this!


34 posted on 01/08/2012 2:45:37 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Ping


36 posted on 01/08/2012 2:55:57 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (The Religion Forum is not for the faint-hearted or those not accustomed to being opposed.)
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kind, reasonable and LOST. It’s not enough to be kind and reasonable. Must have truth.


41 posted on 01/08/2012 3:11:21 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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