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To: GiovannaNicoletta; Not gonna take it anymore
Are you familiar with the original Greek in that passage: harpazo?

Has anyone ever instructed you on what that means?


It's referring to an event, not to your interpretation of that event. The closest description of that event elsewhere in the NT is that of Jesus in Matthew 13 (36-43) and 24 (30&31) when he talks about his angels being sent out (by him upon his return) to gather his own after they had first cleared the sons of the evil one out of the earth. The ones left behind are the righteous who are then later taken up to meet Jesus in the air.
310 posted on 11/30/2011 3:14:11 AM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan
when he talks about his angels being sent out (by him upon his return) to gather his own

Read this and tell me what your interpretation of it is:

But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words. (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

So, when God says clearly and unmistakably that The Lord Himself will descend from Heaven, what exactly do you get from that? What is your personal interpretation of that? Can you post the portion of the verse that states that the angels will catch those in Christ up? Because this passage only speaks of the voice of the archangel. So I really need to know where this Scripture tells us that the angels will come and get Church-age believers and take them back to Heaven.

I'm really interested to see your personal interpretation of that verse and where you see angels coming to get believers in Christ. Can you help me out here?

And then, there is the discrepancy between the fact that In 1 Thessalonians 4 believers are gathered in the air and taken to heaven, while in Matthew 24, the angels gather those who have become saved during the Tribulation after Christ' s arrival to earth. This is a huge problem for post-tribbers. Hopefully you have an answer from your own personal interpretation.

after they had first cleared the sons of the evil one out of the earth. The ones left behind are the righteous who are then later taken up to meet Jesus in the air.

Can you post the supporting Scriptures for that?

339 posted on 11/30/2011 2:31:58 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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