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Catholic Prophecy [Why some Catholics anticipate the return of Monarchy]
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Posted on 11/13/2011 5:02:38 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

Catholic Prophecy


THE CATHOLIC KNIGHT:  Sit down my readers, grab a cup of tea and I'll tell you a story about your future.  Actually it's our future, and the future of our children, and their children.  You'll want to pay close attention, because if you're under the age of fifty, you're likely to see these events transpire within your lifetime.


If you've been watching the news lately, you've probably noticed that it seems like the world is going to hell in a hand basket.  Well, you're a very perceptive person, because it truly is.  You see the bad news is that for the short term, things are only going to get worse, much worse.  Oh sure, we'll probably have some brief respites when things settle down a bit, but they'll be followed by calamities even worse.  I'm talking about the man-made kind actually, not the natural disasters, as we have always had those.  I'm talking about such man-made disasters as economic crisis, civil unrest, wars and famine.  You're probably wondering what went wrong?  Why is the world so screwed up?  What ever happened to the good ol' days?


Well, let me lay this out for you in very simple terms.  The good ol' days ended a long time ago, long before any of us were born, and long before anyone alive today can remember.  Would it surprise you to learn that our time was prophesied centuries ago with alarming accuracy?  Here, let me give you an example...

After the year 1900, toward the middle of the 20th century, the people of that time will become unrecognisable. When the time for the Advent of the Antichrist approaches, peoples minds will grow cloudy from carnal passions, and dishonour and lawlessness will grow stronger. Then the world will become unrecognisable. Peoples appearances will change, and it will be impossible to distinguish men from women due to there shamelessness in dress and style of hair. These people will be cruel and will be like wild animals because of the temptations of the Antichrist. There will be no respect for parents or elders, love will disappear, and Christian pastors, bishops, and priests will become vain men, completely failing to distinguish the right hand way from the left. At that time the morals and traditions of Christians and the Church will change. People will abandon modesty, and dissipation will reign. Falsehood and greed will attain great proportions, and woe to those who pile up treasures. Lust, adultery, homosexuality, secret deeds and murder will rule in society.
-- St. Nilus, 430 AD
I bet that got your attention!  A man writing some 1,600 years ago accurately predicted our present age down to the half century.  He states that this change in humanity will begin around the middle of the 20th century, and then he goes on to accurately describe the change in vivid detail.  Sure enough, during the 1960s (about the middle of the 20th century) the whole Western World underwent the a change that has been called the "sexual revolution," which radically altered our lives, habits, fashions, and appearances.  About the same time the crime rate skyrocketed, just as the early medieval prophet foretold so many centuries ago.


You'll notice in St. Nilus' prophecy a reference to Antichrist.  Now I should point out here that Nilus did not say the Antichrist would come in the 20th century, nor in the 21st century.  He specifically said "when the time for the advent of the Antichrist approaches."  In other words, when it is getting close to that time, but not necessarily the actual time itself.  That's important to remember, because our Evangelical Christian friends (God love 'em) actually believe the time of the Antichrist is here, and he'll make is presence known any day now.  Of course a lot of them believe they're going to be "raptured" as well, in a supernatural event that will snatch them out of this world so they will not have to endure the temptations of Antichrist.  Now, that's a pleasant thought, but totally unbiblical.  The early Church Fathers, those Christians who lived closest to the Apostolic age, knew nothing of this "rapture" as it is commonly taught, that is allegedly supposed to spare modern day Evangelicals from the same kind of hardship endured by the early Christians under the Roman persecutions.  It's no matter though, because in a very short time Evangelicalism will no longer exist.  For that matter, neither will any Protestant denomination or sect.  All of the pluralism we see in Christianity today will soon be extinct.


Now comes the journey.  I hope you're comfortable, because I'm about to reveal something to you that very few Christians today know, but was once common knowledge back in the early days of the Church.  It all centers around the time period leading up to the Antichrist, and in order to understand the Antichrist, we must first understand the centuries leading up to it, of which the 20th century marked the first.  We are now in the second - the 21st century.  What I don't know is how many centuries we have left to go.  What I do know is the time is short, and there are not many centuries left, but the one we currently live in will by far be the most interesting, the most terrifying and the most wonderful.  Are you sitting down?

And after these shall arise Antichrist and having by the signs and lying wonders of his magical deceit, beguiled the Jews as though he were the expected Christ, he shall afterwards characterize himself by all kinds of excesses of cruelty and lawlessness…and he shall perpetrate such things for 3 years and 6 months


"Antichrist will exceed in malice, perversity, lust, wickedness, impiety, and ruthlessness and barbarity all men that have ever disgraced human nature. Hence St. Paul emphatically calls him `the man of sin the son of perdition, the wicked one, whose birth and coming is through the operation of Satan, in all manner of seduction and iniquity.' (2 Thess., 2). Through his great power, deceit and malice he shall succeed in decoying or forcing to his worship two thirds of mankind; the remaining third part of men will continue true to the faith and worship of Jesus Christ most steadfastly. But in his satanic rage and fury, Antichrist will persecute these brave and devout Christians during three years and a half, and torture them with such an extremity of barbarity, with all the old and newly invented instruments of pain, as to exceed all past persecutors of the Church combined. He will oblige all his followers to bear impressed upon their foreheads or right hands the mark of the Beast and will starve to death all those who refuse to receive it."

This one shall seize the power of the Roman Empire and shall falsely style himself Christ. By the name Christ he shall deceive the Jews who are expecting the anointed and he shall seduce the Gentiles by his magical illusions.

-- St. Cyril of Jerusalem, 386 AD
Now as these writings get closer in proximity to the time of the Apostles, we can safely assume that what we are reading is not so much a mystical prediction of private revelation, as it is a faithful passing on of oral tradition from the Apostles themselves.  A lot is said about the Antichrist by the early Church Fathers, and from this we learn a lot about him.  We learn that he will deceive the Jews.  From other contemporary writings we learn that he will be a Jew himself, born in the Middle East somewhere in present-day Iraq, and will come to power in the area we now call Israel.  As a Jew he will deceive the Jewish people into believing he is the Messiah, and two-thirds of the world will follow him.  We do not know how long his actual reign in Jerusalem will be, but it is suspected that he will reign for a fairly long time (perhaps decades), but it is the last 3 1/2 years of his reign that is most interesting.  This is when he seizes control of the "Roman Empire."  It is during this time he unleashes the most ferocious persecution of Christians the world has ever known, rivaling that of all the Roman emperors in ages past, and the Communists and Muslims to today.   Let us understand something here.  Many evil men have reigned over various territories in the past, and it is likely that many more evil men are to come, but just being "evil" is not what makes one the Antichrist.  The word "Antichrist" is a biblical term.  It has religious underpinnings and outside of religion it means nothing.  The word "Antichrist" is the Greek rendering of a 1st century Jewish concept of the Anti-Messiah!  The Anti-Messiah is a false Messiah, and to be sure, the Jews have seen many anti-messiahs in their history. However, this one foretold in Christian Scripture and Tradition is a special case.  It is an Anti-Messiah (false Messiah) that is so convincing that he not only dupes almost all the Jews, but two-thirds of the world's population as well.  Christian Scripture and Tradition tell us he doesn't act alone, but he is aided by none other than the devil himself. All of this is extremely important to remember, because if we are to properly understand the Antichrist, we must do so strictly in Jewish terms.


Now it is the last portion of St. Cyril's record that is of particular interest to us.  He states the "this one" meaning Antichrist "shall seize the power of the Roman Empire."  Now that is interesting since the Roman Empire ceased to exist some 1,500 years ago in the West and some 550 years ago in the East.  Our Evangelical brethren, once again hot on the trail of a supposed present-day Antichrist, have pointed out the reunification of Europe under the European Union, and assume this must be the return of ancient Rome.  Once again that's a quaint idea but in order to truly have an empire you must first have an emperor - a single monarch who's rule is absolute.  Nothing like that exists today.  St. Cyril tells us the Antichrist "shall seize the power of the Roman Empire," implying that he just takes it, as if it is not rightfully his to begin with.   How then?  How does a man steal some nonexistent thing, from somebody who clearly does not exist?   The answer is simple.  The emperor and empire still have yet to come...

The Great Gaulish Monarch, who shall subject all the East, shall come around the end of the world. These things, then, coming to pass, beloved, and the one week being divided into two parts, and the abomination of desolation being manifested then, and the two prophets and forerunners of the Lord having finished their course, and the whole world finally approaching the consummation, what remains but' the coming of our Lord and Saviour from heaven, for whom we have looked in hope? who shall bring the conflagration and just judgment upon all who have refused to believe on Him

"Christ arose from among the Hebrews, and he (Antichrist) will spring from among the Jews. Christ showed His flesh as a Temple, and raised it up on the third day; and he, too, will raise up again the Temple of stone in Jerusalem.

-- St. Hippolytus, 236 AD
You'll notice we're going further back in time now.  This writing comes to us from the early third century, while Christians were still being thrown to lions under the Roman persecutions.  St. Hippolytus' grandfather would have been old enough to remember the Apostle John.  The teachings of the apostles about these things still would have been fresh in Church memory.  The context is in reference to the Antichrist, and indeed these early Church fathers did preoccupy themselves with the Antichrist in many of their writings.  Once again we learn a few new traits of this man of sin.  It is however, the first sentence that is of most interest to us now.  "The Great Gaulish Monarch, who shall subject all the East, shall come around the end of the world."  Notice the vague reference to time.  He shall come "around the end of the world."  It's not at the end of the world, or even immediately before the end of the world, but "around" that time.  So it is sometime in the centuries prior to the end of the world, and likewise the coming of Antichrist.  According to St. Nilus' prophecy above about the end times beginning around the later half of the 20th century, that would put the coming of this "Great Gaulish Monarch" sometime in our immediate proximity.  In case you're wondering, "Gaul" was what the ancient Romans called a certain portion of Western Europe.  Today we call it France.  In the centuries to follow, more Christians gave testimony to this tradition presumably coming from the Apostolic era...


A Frankish King will one day rule over the entire Roman Empire."
-- St. Augustine, 5th Century

He shall reign over the entire ancient Roman Empire."
-- Remy, 5th Century
Okay, so we now know that the early Christians believed there would one day come a French king who would rule over the entire Roman Empire, and that this will happen toward the end of the world, or more specifically in the centuries leading up to the time of Antichrist and the end of the world.  We currently live in an age of Republics right now.  Western monarchies are effectively neutered these days - little more than national figureheads.  There is no Roman Empire to speak of, because there is no Roman emperor.  Right now Europe is united as a loose confederacy of republics.  There is no central figurehead, and there is not likely to be under the constitutional system now set up.  So how can this happen?  Another 4th century saint gives us a clue...


A time will come when the enemies of Christ will boast: "We have subjected the earth and all its inhabitants, and the Christians cannot escape our hands." Then a Roman Emperor will arise in great fury against them... Drawing his sword, he will fall upon the foes of Christianity and crush them. Then peace will reign on earth, and priests will be relieved of all their anxieties.

In the latter days of the world, Christians will become ungrateful for the great favours they will receive through the coming of the great Monarch, by reason of the long period of peace and prosperity on earth which they will enjoy under his reign. Many man will then begin to doubt if the Christian faith is the only really sanctifying faith and will think perhaps the Jews are right because they are awaiting the Messiah.
--St. Methodius of Olympus, 311 AD

Okay, so now we have a chronology.  First a great time of trial for Christians comes.  Then the Great French Monarch comes to save the day, putting down the enemies of Christianity.  In turn however, because of the great peace he delivers that lasts a very long time, people will start to take it for granted.  As a result there will be a great apostasy, eventually leading two-thirds of the world's population away from Christ, and resulting in the rise of Antichrist. 


So now we have the big picture.  The reason why the Antichrist will eventually be able to steal the power of the Roman Empire is because the Roman Empire is coming back.  This time not as a Pagan system, but as the medieval Holy Roman Empire restored!  Only after a long period of such rule will the Antichrist come and attempt to steal it away.

As we look around us, we can see that the fall of democratic republicanism in our time is inevitable now. The Socialist-Islamic (IslamoSocialist) alliance in Europe has successfully exploited the weakness of our democratic system, and the problem will only get worse in the years (or decades) ahead. That coupled with the moral decline and economic decline of the western world, signals the end of the American and European republics.


(Zenit.org) - On an official visit to Italy this week, the Libyan chief of state caused a few ripples by stating that Europe should convert to Islam. The general public was perhaps more shocked, however, by his request for a few billion dollars to stop African immigration.


However, a missionary priest did call for taking seriously Muammar al-Qadhafi's statements on religion, saying a European conversion to Islam just might happen if the continent continues denying its Christian roots.

Father Piero Gheddo of the Pontifical Institute for Foreign Missions and founder of the missionary news agency AsiaNews, said that far from being "folklore," al-Qadhafi's summons could become a reality in a few decades....

read full story here

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(CBN) Friday in Paris. A hidden camera shows streets blocked by huge crowds of Muslim worshippers and enforced by a private security force.

This is all illegal in France: the public worship, the blocked streets, and the private security. But the police have been ordered not to intervene. 

It shows that even though some in the French government want to get tough with Muslims and ban the burqa, other parts of the French government continue to give Islam a privileged status. 

An ordinary French citizen who has been watching the Islamization of Paris decided that the world needed to see what was happening to his city. He used a hidden camera to start posting videos on YouTube. His life has been threatened and so he uses the alias of "Maxime Lepante."

read full story here


The only counter to this IslamoSocialist infiltration is a healthy and robust Christianity - particularly CATHOLIC Christianity - as it is the only form of Christianity that abhors artificial birth control and has successfully repelled Islam in the past (in the crusades!).  What these ancient prophecies tell us is another crusade is coming.  It will be the last and final crusade - the mother of all crusades - that will deliver a death blow to the whole IslamoSocialist regime in Europe and the IslamoShariah system in the Middle East.

Before this can happen however, all of the Catholic prophecies and the teachings of the most ancient Church Fathers agree there must first be a crisis - a Chastisement of God - that will cause the present system of things to crumble.  The Chastisement marks the last epic of human history, starting with a calamity that changes the world, resulting in the longest period of peace the world has ever known.  It will be the last reign of Christian kings, with a Great Monarch ruling over a revived Holy Roman Empire, from Iberia to Siberia, that will far surpass everything that has previously existed.  This will last for an unspecified amount of time.  Catholic prophecies seem to indicate at least a couple centuries is likely.  During the latter part of that time period the world will fall back into it's depraved state, and it is at that time the Antichrist will arise, steal the power of the revived Holy Roman Empire for himself and use it in an attempt to destroy the Church.  He will nearly succeed before he is killed and sometime after that Jesus Christ will return to raise the dead and judge the nations.  We are now living in the time just before the Chastisement.

We don't know much about the Chastisement, but this we do know...
  1. It is brought upon us by our worldwide sins against God ranging from artificial contraception to abortion to euthanasia, to sexual sins of various types (including homosexuality, adultery and fornication), as well as Socialism, Atheism, Hedonism and indifference toward the poor.  To summarize, it is caused by our personal and cultural abandonment of the Christian gospel message.
  2. It consists of two parts.  The first part is man-made, the second part is God-made.
  3. It begins with riots, civil unrest and war - particularly in Europe.
  4. It is marked by an event that causes the pope to flee Rome and eventually be assassinated while in exile.
  5. It results in the election of another pope (in exile) who crowns a new French king to save France from anarchy - this man later becomes the Great Monarch of the Holy Roman Empire.
  6. It ends with three-days of strange darkness that will cover the whole world, poison the air, and leave 2/3 to 3/4 of the world's population dead.  The result of this ecological catastrophe leaves the enemies of the Great Monarch powerless to resist him.

  7. It concludes with the Great Monarch restoring the Holy Roman Empire and ruling the whole world.  He abolishes all democratic republics and restores a system of monarchy over all the regions of the world.  In total, twelve monarchs will rule the entire planet, under the direction of the Great Monarch.  For Christians it will be the greatest time of peace and missionary outreach the world has ever known.
These seven events await our immediate future.  They could come as soon as tomorrow, or possibly as late as thirty years from now, but they will come - most certainly!

The American republic is slowly dying and European democracy will soon fade away.  According to the prophecies this Great Monarch is coming soon. Within our lifetime. I am sure of it....


Prophecies on the Rise of the Great Monarch

Rudolph Gekner, 17th Century: "His sword will be moved by Divine power..."

Monk Adso (10th Century): "Some of our teachers say that a King of the Franks will possess the entire Roman Empire. He will be the greatest and last of all Monarchs. After having wisely governed his kingdom, he will go into Jerusalem and will lay his sceptre and his crown upon the Mount of Olives. Immediately afterwards, Antichrist will come."

David Poreaus (17th Century): "The Great Monarch will be of French descent, large forehead, large dark eyes, light brown wavy hair, and an eagle nose. He will crush the enemies of the Pope and will conquer the East."

St. Francis of Paola (15th Century) "By the grace of the Almighty, the great Monarch will annihilate heretics and unbelievers. He will have a great army, and angels will fight at his side. He will be like the sun among the stars. His influence will spread over the whole earth. All in all, there will be on earth twelve Kings, one Emperor, one Pope, and a few Princes. They will all lead holy lives."

St. Augustine, 5th Century):" A Frankish King will one day rule over the entire Roman Empire."


Old Saxon prophecy: "He will come from the Fleur-de-Lis..."

St. Cataldus, 5th Century: "... a King of the House of Lilies..."

St. Caesar, 5th Century: "He shall recover the Crown of the Lilies....."

St. Hildegarde, German Abbess, 12th Century: "The White Flower again takes possession of the Throne of France."

Bishop Ageda, 12th Century: "He shall inherit the Crown of the Fleur-de-Lis"

Busto (15th Century): "The angelic Pope shall place an imperial crown on his head."


Remy (5th Century): "He shall reign over the entire ancient Roman Empire."

Aystinger: " ... by whom the ancient glory of the Empire shall be restored. He shall be Emperor of Europe."

St. Francis de Paola (15th Century): "(He and the Holy Pontiff) shall obtain dominion over the whole world.

Holzhauser: "He will restore everything."

St. Hildegarde:"Peace will return when the Lily ascends the Throne again. The land will be very productive."

St. Bridget: "And the earth shall enjoy peace and prosperity."


St. John-Mary Vianney, Cur‚ of Ars (19th Century): "This shall re-establish a peace and prosperity without precedent."

(Old German prophecy): "He will be lame afoot ... "

(Anne-Catherine Emmerich, 19th Century): "God touched the sinew of his hip. He was in great pain and from that day on, he walked with a limp ... "

(Peasant Jasper, Germany): "This Prince shall mount his horse on the right-hand side, because he limps from one foot .... "

Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich, July 12, 1820: "I had a vision of the holy Emperor Henry. I saw him at night kneeling alone at the foot of the main altar in a great and beautiful church . . . and I saw the Blessed Virgin coming down all alone. She laid on the altar a red cloth covered with white linen. She placed a book inlaid with precious stones. She lit the candles and the perpetual lamp . . . Then came down the Saviour Himself clad in priestly vestments. He was carrying the chalice and the veil. Two Angels were serving Him and two more were following . . . His chasuble was a full and heavy mantle in which red and white could be seen in transparency, and gleaming with jewels . . . Although there was no altar bell, the cruets were there. The wine was red as blood, and there was also some water. The Mass was short. The Gospel of St. John was not read at the end. When the Mass has ended, Mary came up to Henry (the Emperor), and she extended her right hand towards him, saying that it was in recognition of his purity. Then, she urged him not to falter. Thereupon I saw an angel, and he touched the sinew of his hip, like Jacob. He (Henry) was in great pain, and from that day on, he walked with a limp . . . "

The Catholic Knight laments the fall of the republics, but hails the return of the kings, particularly the great Christian king who will rule virtually all the world.  Within our lifetimes we shall likely see him.  Prepare yourselves, and prepare you children, for he will come, but only after a terrible Chastisement from God. If you would like to learn more about these events from one of the most reputable sources ever put to print, The Catholic Knight would like to invite you to read "Trial, Tribulation and Triumph" by Desmond Birch.

There are many books written on the coming Chastisement and the following Tribulation of Antichrist, but none offer such a well researched, exhaustive and orderly presentation of APPROVED Catholic prophecy than this book by Desmond Birch. If you read anything about End Times eschatology, than this is a book that belongs in your library. There are many other books out there, but in the opinion of The Catholic Knight, this one is the BEST!



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To: smvoice

Don’t worry, this rapture nonsense will also be a long and gladly forgotten bad memory.


81 posted on 11/13/2011 7:45:15 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Who Is The New Israel
82 posted on 11/13/2011 7:46:52 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Good to hear the Catholic Church will be converting to the Assyrian Church.

What have you got against the Israelis? They kick your dog or something?

83 posted on 11/13/2011 7:46:56 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I have nothing against the modern secular state which calls itself Israel. I'm a big fan.

But the modern secular state which calls itself Israel is not the ISRAEL of scripture. See my last post.

84 posted on 11/13/2011 7:48:55 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: redgolum

I could have made it a Catholic Caucus thread ;-)


85 posted on 11/13/2011 7:51:53 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; wideawake
I have nothing against the modern secular state which calls itself Israel. I'm a big fan.

You'd never guess it from that post up above.

But the modern secular state which calls itself Israel is not the ISRAEL of scripture. See my last post.

What is the Israel of scripture? Medieval Europe?

I will never understand the delusion that looks at the Holy Torah and sees anything other than Judaism practiced forever.

Since you cheer the Nazarene's protestant revolt two thousand years ago, at least have the decency to stop hypocritically condemning Martin Luther.

86 posted on 11/13/2011 7:55:28 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
I know. Just as soon as "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders. And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. AND FOR THIS CAUSE, GOD shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 2 Thess. 2:9-12.

"Hey, what happened to all the Fundamentalists? They've ceased to exist...???" "WHy ask "why"? Just be glad they're gone. Now we can get on to that revival we've been waiting for."

87 posted on 11/13/2011 7:55:29 PM PST by smvoice (Who the *#@! is Ivo of Chatre & why am I being accused of not linking to his quote?)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Could, but it wouldn’t be as fun.

Republics fail to democracies, which fail to tyranny. Span is usually 200 years or so. Monarchies are more stable in some sense, but are very prone to abuse also.


88 posted on 11/13/2011 7:58:35 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: unlearner; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
The Catholic author seems eager to return to the days when Christian “heretics” are eliminated by a militant Catholic church lead by a ruthless European monarch (aka dictator).

So protestant believers not only need to beware of atheist, hindu, muslim, satanist, certain elements of Judiasm and other various enemies who seek their harm around the world; but even the Catholic church should be expected to return to her days of torture and killing of protestant Christians? Am I getting this right?

And this monarch differs from the Anti-Christ how exactly?

Well, um, you see..... ah....

I suppose it depends on whether you're Catholic or not.

89 posted on 11/13/2011 7:58:49 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: TSgt
The emblem of the Catholic peasants who rose up against the anti-Christian French republic in the name of God and their King.
90 posted on 11/13/2011 7:59:50 PM PST by rzman21
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To: Zionist Conspirator
**Russia will be converted back to Christianity en mass, and the Orthodox churches will be reunited with the Roman Catholic Church, and all non-Catholic (protestant, reformed, evangelical and fundamentalist) churches will cease to exist.**

Kind of makes you wonder just what causes them to *cease to exist*, doesn't it?

What are they going to do. Just fall off the face of the earth all on their own?

Or be assimilated or else?

91 posted on 11/13/2011 8:01:18 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: stfassisi
The Protestant Church was completely Nazified during the Third Reich, not to mention under the Communists. For every Catholic toady who supported the Nazis there were countless others who fought against it.


92 posted on 11/13/2011 8:02:36 PM PST by rzman21
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To: rzman21

Bonhoeffer?


93 posted on 11/13/2011 8:03:58 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Since you cheer the Nazarene's protestant revolt two thousand years ago

This is a Christian prophecy thread. Why not take your anti-Christian views somewhere it will be appreciated.

94 posted on 11/13/2011 8:04:07 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

So you think so-called democracy is better than a monarchy? From what I have seen, we’d be just as well off with a king or an emperor as a president.

America is an aristocracy not a democracy.


95 posted on 11/13/2011 8:04:17 PM PST by rzman21
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To: metmom; Dr. Brian Kopp
What are they going to do. Just fall off the face of the earth all on their own?

Well . . . to be fair, this is what some of them themselves teach ("the rapture").

The part I'm trying to wrap my mind around is that Israel isn't "the scriptural Israel" while the medieval kingdom of Charlemagne is.

But what can you expect from people who (claim to) read the Torah and see something other than Judaism commanded?

96 posted on 11/13/2011 8:04:47 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

The rapture is not a Christian teaching. Don’t blame us Catholics for that bit of silliness.


97 posted on 11/13/2011 8:09:02 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Christian Scripture and Tradition tell us [the Antichrist] doesn't act alone, but he is aided by none other than the devil himself.


98 posted on 11/13/2011 8:09:39 PM PST by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: TSgt

Look at the date of the concordat at the beginning of the Nazi reign before the world started taking notice of their evil.

Pius XI backed away from it in 1937 when he issued the Encyclical Mit Brennander Sorge

IT BRENNENDER SORGE
ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PIUS XI
ON THE CHURCH AND THE GERMAN REICH
TO THE VENERABLE BRETHREN
THE ARCHBISHOPS AND BISHOPS OF GERMANY AND OTHER ORDINARIES
IN PEACE AND COMMUNION WITH THE APOSTOLIC SEE.

Venerable Brethren, Greetings, and Apostolic Blessing.

It is with deep anxiety and growing surprise that We have long been following the painful trials of the Church and the increasing vexations which afflict those who have remained loyal in heart and action in the midst of a people that once received from St. Boniface the bright message and the Gospel of Christ and God’s Kingdom.

2. And what the representatives of the venerable episcopate, who visited Us in Our sick room, had to tell Us, in truth and duty bound, has not modified Our feelings. To consoling and edifying information on the stand the Faithful are making for their Faith, they considered themselves bound, in spite of efforts to judge with moderation and in spite of their own patriotic love, to add reports of things hard and unpleasant. After hearing their account, We could, in grateful acknowledgment to God, exclaim with the Apostle of love: “I have no greater grace than this, to hear that my children walk in truth” (John iii. 4). But the frankness indifferent in Our Apostolic charge and the determination to place before the Christian world the truth in all its reality, prompt Us to add: “Our pastoral heart knows no deeper pain, no disappointment more bitter, than to learn that many are straying from the path of truth.”

3. When, in 1933, We consented, Venerable Brethren, to open negotiations for a concordat, which the Reich Government proposed on the basis of a scheme of several years’ standing; and when, to your unanimous satisfaction, We concluded the negotiations by a solemn treaty, We were prompted by the desire, as it behooved Us, to secure for Germany the freedom of the Church’s beneficent mission and the salvation of the souls in her care, as well as by the sincere wish to render the German people a service essential for its peaceful development and prosperity. Hence, despite many and grave misgivings, We then decided not to withhold Our consent for We wished to spare the Faithful of Germany, as far as it was humanly possible, the trials and difficulties they would have had to face, given the circumstances, had the negotiations fallen through. It was by acts that We wished to make it plain, Christ’s interests being Our sole object, that the pacific and maternal hand of the Church would be extended to anyone who did not actually refuse it.http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge_en.html


99 posted on 11/13/2011 8:10:46 PM PST by rzman21
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To: redgolum

Bonhoeffer and Barth were the minority.


100 posted on 11/13/2011 8:12:24 PM PST by rzman21
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