Posted on 11/13/2011 5:02:38 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
Here’s a good Protestant rebuttal to dispensationalism.
http://www.forerunner.com/eschatology/X0004_4._Disp_Rebuttal.html
IIRC, they began their research expecting to retain their RC ‘orthodox’ perspective on things.
I don’t recall specifically what they thought of other such, if they said. They may have said something neutral to positive in their preface but I just don’t recall, for sure.
I don't think so. Here is some info along those lines:
"Christianity was virtually made the state religion of the Roman empire under Constantine. The Church immediately became an institution of vast importance in world politics. Constantine regarded himself as head of the Church. He called the first ecumenical council at Nicea, AD 325, and presided over it. The first world council of the Church."
Do you imagine Jefferson wouldn’t have you taken out and shot for any attempt to advance Monarchy here in these United States?
Do you imagine Jefferson advocating any form of government other than a Constitutional Republic?
I can almost guarantee that Jefferson would not defend our current system, as you have. Perhaps he would be open to considering alternatives.
So that’s why the Assyrian Church of the East is so close the Catholic Church despite the fact they were outside the Roman Empire. They broke with Rome and Byzantium in 431 A.D.
http://assyrianchurch.org.au/about-us/the-sacraments
It was under the rule of the Persian Empire and never under Roman rule, either secular or relgiously.
I love your mythical understanding of Catholicism.
Christ had designed to conquer by purely Spiritual and Moral means. Conversion was voluntary. But now the military Spirit of Imperial Rome had entered the Church. By forced conversions the Church claimed to have conquered the Roman empire, but in reality the Roman empire had conquered the Church, by making the Church over into the image of the Roman empire.
The Church had changed its nature, had entered its great apostasy, had become a political institution in the Spirit and pattern of Imperial Rome. The Imperial Church of the 4th and 5th centuries had become an entirely different institution from the persecuted church of the first three centuries.
The Church was founded in the Roman empire, and gradually developed a form of government like the political world in which it existed, becoming a vast autocratic institution ruled from the top.
Protestantism was an effort to restore primitive Christianity.
After Constantine adopted Christianity, orthodox Christians like St. Athanasius of Alexandria found themselves persecuted by the Arians.
The monastic movement continued the fight against secular rule over the Church, etc.
Modern Evangelicalism simply DID NOT exist before Constantine.
The Eastern Orthodox monks have continued the tradition of resisting secular authority to this day. So you are oversimplifying things if you try to make it seem that Constantine changed Christian theology.
Ante-Nicene and Post-Nicene theology are much the same.
Do you reject the First Council of Nicaea?
“”The only way to remove an unqualified moronic stooge of a Monarch is through violent revolution.””
You actually have it backwards
Here is some chilling things that happened when Monarchies were overthrown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPbTSFIbdK8&feature=related
Here is a good understanding of Monarchies and Republic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBvHBmpfXHM
The idea of “We the People” is pretty close to being the undoing of this country right now. The 20 something generation of “We The People” will be completely finish the job off in time because of our liberal educational system and breakdown of the family through Hollywood filth,materialism,consumerism, pornography etc... This has all happened under the noses of the 40 to 50 something generation that worshiped the almighty dollar and made children think this materialistic system was utopia that would keep going.
We played right into the hands of the Marxist
Only Prayer and fasting can help us Now
Democracies usually only last for 200 years. Our republic is becoming like late Athens.
http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/21PbAr/Hst/US/DmocAthnsUS.htm
Protestantism didn’t succeed in restoring primitive Christianity. Instead, it created a new religion.
That was the first thing I learned when I started studying the Apostolic Fathers of the early 2nd century.
Protestantism is a NEW religion, rather relgions plural.
It’s nothing more than someone’s romantic view of what they imagined the early Church to be.
It just didn’t exist.
Why should Christians care about Jefferson?
Yup. Pope Leo XIII and others were aware of this as well and warned of problems
Americans are too caught up in the propaganda and hyperbole of the American Revolution to see its limitations.
Watching what I have seen of American politics up close for the past few years, I’ve grown disillusioned.
I know most of the GOP leaders from Cantor down the list. They don’t impress me much.
How is a democracy where the populace is largely ignorant and apathetic, and where the politicians only care about their own power any worse than monarchies?
I sometimes feel this isn’t any worse than an absolute monarchy. Congress and the presidency isn’t any worse than Rome under the Julio-Claudian dynasty or France under the Bourbons.
Only bootlicking servile dupes are waiting to be ruled, such sentiment is anathema to the American character.
I guess all the kneeling has gotten to you.
Now you want to kneel in your civic life as well.
That is true of the ones who think it's possible that another George Washington or Reagan will come along and restore everything,but that it just nostalgia,not a reality because the Greed of the 2 party system has run its course where all you are left with is voting for the lesser of evils. Eventually, the younger generation will become the majority with age and vote for the greater of two evils because they have been brainwashed with a false compassion that gay Marriage, abortion etc.. are forms of love for a better society
As I said...Only Prayer and fasting can help us now!
Every free man owes a debt to Jefferson. His vision was the death of Monarchy.
No wonder you Monarchists despise him and the Republic his ideals shaped.
How many people truly want to be free?
Not many. Which is why we had a very limited system of voting rights to begin with. Once the franchise was expanded, the whole house of cards began to collapse.
Most people will vote for themselves over the nation every time. Which is why the franchise was extremely limited at first. If you don’t have any stake in the game, and are not of the native culture, the view was you don’t have any business voting.
By the way, another perceptible movement among the Latins is to join Eastern Catholic Churches such as the Melkites. It is a good thing.
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