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Does Joel Osteen Not Know, or Does He Not Care? [On Mormonism]
The Christian Post ^ | Oct. 26 2011 | R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

Posted on 10/26/2011 5:04:31 PM PDT by Gamecock

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1 posted on 10/26/2011 5:04:32 PM PDT by Gamecock
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2 posted on 10/26/2011 5:06:40 PM PDT by Gamecock (“I’m so thankful for [the] active obedience of Christ. No hope without it.” JGM)
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To: Gamecock

Keep thinking Happy Happy Thoughts there Joel


3 posted on 10/26/2011 5:25:32 PM PDT by thatjoeguy (Wind is just air, but pushier.)
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To: Gamecock

Joel’s must be a cheezewhiz kinda church. http://cheezewhizchurch.blogspot.com/


4 posted on 10/26/2011 5:34:55 PM PDT by jwalburg (I live in the 57th state.)
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To: Gamecock
...you can build a crowd without building a church.

? He's got the largest one in the nation.

I think what Joel is saying is that anyone who confesses Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savoir is a Christian. The Bible says we're saved by GRACE through FAITH in Jesus Christ, not by belonging to the right church.

Yes the LDS Church is a false doctrine church, but I'm sure there are born-again Christians that go there not yet realizing its problems. God works from the inside out.

Joel is not a "heretic hunter." That's not his ministry. He's a Pastor and and encourager. His church helps many people come to a saving faith in Jesus Christ and helps many all over the world. They're the real deal. I've been a committed Christian for 40+ years and have been going to his church for two and a half years. He preaches God's Word in the anointing of the Holy Spirit every Sunday.

He comes from a solid background and from a solid Christian family whose dad, John, was a well respected pastor and man of God. Joel also is well respected among recognized leaders in the Christian Church including Billy Graham.

5 posted on 10/26/2011 5:40:11 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Gamecock

another baptist attack on joel osteen.

jealous of the osteen family’s success.

perry recently responded in public politely; that’s probably all one will get in today’s media wars.


6 posted on 10/26/2011 5:41:00 PM PDT by ken21
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Mormon much?


7 posted on 10/26/2011 5:51:50 PM PDT by Gamecock (“I’m so thankful for [the] active obedience of Christ. No hope without it.” JGM)
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To: Gamecock

In a bygone era, Joel would have been Joe. In our modern era, Joe would be Joel.


8 posted on 10/26/2011 5:54:51 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: PapaNew
Joel is not a "heretic hunter."

That is abundantly clear.

And because he doesn't discern what is Christian and what is not his flock is left to the wolves.

9 posted on 10/26/2011 5:58:35 PM PDT by Gamecock (“I’m so thankful for [the] active obedience of Christ. No hope without it.” JGM)
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“I believe that [Mormons] are Christians . . . . I don’t know if it’s the purest form of Christianity, like I grew up with. But you know what, I know Mormons. I hear Mitt Romney - and I’ve never met him - but I hear him say, ‘I believe Jesus is the son of God,’ ‘I believe he’s my savior,’ and that’s one of the core issues.”

“I’m sure there are other issues that we don’t agree on. But you know, I can say that the Baptists and the Methodists and the Catholics don’t all agree on everything. So that would be my take on it”....

....Joel reminded the paper’s staff that he has never attended seminary.

"Can someone tell me what Joel is about in 20 words or less?"

Sheesh - that's easy. The real challenge is to tell what Joel is about in 21 words or more.
-- Alex Murphy, Nov 5, 2007 exchange, on the thread Joel Olsteen Joins With Catholics To Convert Confused Protestants

Related threads:
Joel Osteen converts to MORMONISM?
Joel Osteen and Why Theology Matters, Again
Joel Osteen Heresy Gauge

10 posted on 10/26/2011 6:03:20 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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“I believe that [Mormons] are Christians . . . . I don’t know if it’s the purest form of Christianity, like I grew up with.”

Now that statement tells you a lot about Osteen, not the purest form of Christianity!LOL, either you are Christian or you are not, there is no in between!


11 posted on 10/26/2011 6:07:19 PM PDT by longhorn too
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To: Gamecock

Isn’t Rick Warren part of those pastors that support Chrislam?


12 posted on 10/26/2011 6:08:35 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Gamecock
I'm in his flock and I'm not left to the wolves. Every Sunday he explains how to become a born-again Christian by faith in Jesus Christ and every Sunday he prays with many to accept the Lord. His church has many programs to help people grow in the fullness of the Holy Spirit and the knowledge of Jesus Christ.

Many don't like him because he's got his finger on the pulse of what's wrong with many of God's people: they don't have joy, they're not overcomers in their lives, and are therefore of little use to God. Satan hates Joel Osteen because he's helping God's people come into His presence, become effective in advancing His kingdom, and prevail against the gates of Hell.

13 posted on 10/26/2011 6:13:07 PM PDT by PapaNew
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Wow. Rips Osteen a new one.

And Osteen’s comments are as shallow as I’ve ever heard anyplace.


14 posted on 10/26/2011 6:14:16 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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OSTEEN: I probably don’t get hung up in them because I haven’t really studied them or thought about them

Maybe he should have before speaking....

15 posted on 10/26/2011 6:23:56 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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“Part of our core message is that seasons change, and when you believe, if you don’t get bitter, and you don’t get discouraged, you may not change overnight, but you can get peace.”"People need to be reminded that every day is a gift from God, and bloom where you’re planted and be happy where you are, and to make that choice to get up every day and be grateful." J.O.

Huh? What does that mean? It's just piled up platitudes. It's like the jargon got away from him.

I don’t know if it’s the purest form of Christianity, like I grew up with.

Hmm. His daddy way a Word 'o Faith pastor.

By now, it is clear that Joel Osteen’s carelessness is deliberate and calculated.

Scary.

16 posted on 10/26/2011 6:32:55 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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Every Sunday he explains how to become a born-again Christian by faith in Jesus Christ

EVERY Sunday? Then what is it I see when I turn the TV on to the program beamed your house of worship? A Joel imposter? All I ever see when I watch is him taking a fragment of a passage and repeating the same thing, over and over. And that would be a watered down version of the prosperity Gospel.

17 posted on 10/26/2011 6:37:35 PM PDT by Gamecock (“I’m so thankful for [the] active obedience of Christ. No hope without it.” JGM)
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To: Gamecock

I am a Mormon, and I believe that Jesus Christ is my personal savior, and that through his atonement I can have my sins forgiven, and therefore be clean and acceptable to my Father in Heaven.

The Bible Says: “Judge not, that ye be not judged, For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again” Mathew 7:1-2

So taking the above scripture literally: If God finds me an acceptable Christian, yet you sequester God’s Judgment and declare me as a LDS(mormon) a non-Christian .... Then God potentially will boomerang your sequestered judgment by declaring you a Non-Christian?

So Go ahead and join the party!


18 posted on 10/26/2011 6:42:43 PM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country)
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The only problem with your interpretation is God was talking about folks that are engaged in the same sin...judging those that are committing that sin. Read the whole page..and the context of it.Nothing more nothing less....

You are taking the road...of Liberals when you quote that scripture. They attempt to use that line all the time...IS that what you are falling back on??

19 posted on 10/26/2011 6:49:17 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: Gamecock

I was clearing some bookshelves and ran across a book that highlighted different religions. The Mormon section was not the detail your article was but it correlated the timelines. One thing it said was that Mormons teach that African Americans are descendants of Ham and are black because their ancestors sinned.

Reading what this book said I don’t know how Joel Osteen could declare that Mormons are Christians, even nominally. Have you ever heard Romney say that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, died for the salvation of those who believe and was resurrected on the third day. Or anything similar? I would like to see the quote because Osteen says he has heard it from Romney.


20 posted on 10/26/2011 6:51:47 PM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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