Posted on 10/10/2011 12:03:16 PM PDT by NYer
... the guidelines established for the Anglican ordinariate by Pope Benedict XVI's in his 2009 apostolic constitution, Anglicanorum coetibus his 2007 Apostolic Letter "Summorum Pontificum" is St. Luke’s, in Maryland:
“This truly is a historic moment,” said Cardinal Donald W. Wuerl, the archbishop of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Washington, who led Sunday’s conversion Mass, which he called “a joyful moment of completion.”
Fifty-eight of St. Luke’s roughly 100 parishioners were confirmed at the applause-filled Mass, during which they were anointed by Wuerl — one by one, old and young, white and black.
Osita Okafor, a 56-year-old Nigerian immigrant, found himself first in line before Wuerl for the rite of reception. His reaction? “Oh, my God, I must be blessed.” ...
The parish’s conversion made international headlines when it was announced in June. After all, St. Luke’s had been an Episcopal church for more than a century. But it wasn’t too much of a leap for the parish, which for years had been part of Anglo-Catholicism, a movement that embraces various Catholic practices and theology but still treasures aspects of Anglican ritual, such as kneeling to receive Communion.
At the basilica, before the archbishop, parishioners stood for Communion. But at St. Luke’s, they’ll be allowed to kneel under the guidelines laid out by the Vatican in 2009 when it announced plans to create a special body that would let American Anglicans keep some of their traditions, including their married priests.
Read the entire Washington Post article, "Episcopal parish in Bladensburg converts to Roman Catholic Church" (Oct. 9, 2011). for more about the ordinariate, see the book, Anglicans and the Roman Catholic Church: Reflections on Recent Developments (Ignatius Press, 2011), edited by Stephen Cavanaugh. Here is the Introduction:
Unsubstantiated claims, such as this, are there own rebuttal and need no reply.
Unfortunately, spell check won't help in this case. And, why then a reply?
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Here are your men who claim to be Alter Christus. This is just the tip of the troubling iceburg.
You wrote:
“There is no such word as “Church” in the Scriptures.”
Nor “Trinity” nor “Bible”.
“But, that is a problem for Rome.”
No problem at all. No rational person expects every Greek or English word to appear in the Bible.
“The word you are trying to mangle to fit your preconception is ekklesia,”
I wasn’t trying anything. I simply succeeded in being right all along. I know the word ekklesia just as I knew the word kyriakos.
“or “public gathering, an ordinary congegation of people”. But, Rome needs the trademark. I will leave it to them and whatever they face when this is over. God knows His own.”
He knows His own. He knows no Protestant sect.
You may be getting the idea...no organizations are rescued. Only individuals among the elect.
I aklways got the idea. You, however, believe in heresy. I never have.
My suggestion is that you review the entire text of the New Testament epistles, concentrating on Paul's arguments regarding redemption. Let go of the party line for a while and just read.
You wrote:
“My suggestion is that you review the entire text of the New Testament epistles, concentrating on Paul’s arguments regarding redemption. Let go of the party line for a while and just read.”
What st. Paul taught is the party line.
Unfortunately for Rome, there is none of the RCC sacerdotalism, mariolatry, ritualism, cultish behavior, ceremonial hoopla, hail marys, rosaries, penance, pergatory, indulgences, prada slippers, gold embroidered robes, etc. found in Paul’s writing. So, just read him through listening to his simple message of grace provided by Jesus, alone. You might swim back over the Tiber...if He permits.
You wrote:
“Unfortunately for Rome, there is none of the RCC sacerdotalism, mariolatry, ritualism, cultish behavior, ceremonial hoopla, hail marys, rosaries, penance, pergatory, indulgences, prada slippers, gold embroidered robes, etc. found in Paul’s writing. So, just read him through listening to his simple message of grace provided by Jesus, alone. You might swim back over the Tiber...if He permits.”
It’s always amazing to me how anti-Catholic bigots have to make things up out of thin air when they attack the Catholic Church. The Church has never practiced “mariolatry” but every anti-Catholic clearly practices stupidity.
Evidently we don’t have to watch this side of the Tiber in the near future. If that changes, my FRiend, and you would like to visit about the true Gospel, the unmerited favor of Christ absent all of the paraphrenalia of Rome, let us know. Many of the believers around here would be happy to help you learn about the message that rocked the world...without having to kiss Rome’s ring. I’ll give a few of them a heads up to watch for your inquiries should you change your mind. Again, assuming Jesus permits.
I don’t believe that you’re a believer. When I see the rank dishonesty posted by anti-Catholics, it makes it painfully obvious they are not believers, or at the very least believers not able to share much truth with anyone even if they did become fortunate to finally discover what the truth is.
I don't doubt this a bit. It seems certain (although I do not know your mind) that you sincerely believe that the Roman cult is the true organization founded by Jesus. Had its doctrines aligned with the Scriptures, you might have a point. Sadly, that is not the case. However, there is hope in Jesus, alone. He can rescue even the most entrapped individuals. No groups, just individuals. He might have you in His sights. If so, you will be dragged into His kingdom and you will find the blessed hope of Him, alone. No Rome, no org., no trappings...just Him.
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You wrote:
” don’t doubt this a bit. It seems certain (although I do not know your mind) that you sincerely believe that the Roman cult is the true organization founded by Jesus.”
Jesus founded the Catholic Church. It does not surprise me that a non-believer like you would accuse Jesus of starting a Roman cult.
“Had its doctrines aligned with the Scriptures, you might have a point. Sadly, that is not the case. However, there is hope in Jesus, alone. He can rescue even the most entrapped individuals.”
I hope He rescues you. Clearly that has not happened yet.
“No groups, just individuals. He might have you in His sights.”
He got me many years ago. That’s why I am not a Protestant.
“If so, you will be dragged into His kingdom and you will find the blessed hope of Him, alone.”
I won’t dragged anywhere by God. He doesn’t do that to those whom He wants to love Him freely.
“No Rome, no org., no trappings...just Him.”
I hope one day you come to believe in Christ rather than just attacking His Church and apparently making things up out of thin air.
Hey Dutchboy88, what exactly do you think a “Hail Mary” is?
You said, “No groups, just individuals.”
With all due respect, Jesus is the Son of God. He can do anything He pleases. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone on the earth may say otherwise. It is literally His world, along with being His universe.
Likewise, you said, “He can rescue even the most entrapped individuals.” Very true. Those people must then exercise their free will, avoiding sin, and doing the Lord’s will, so that, in addition we may know Him, love Him, and serve Him both in this world and in the next.
You can disagree with and dislike all kinds of things in this life. Here are a few: The Incarnation Happened. Then, He, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, formed a church, the Catholic Church, to save souls. That doesn’t mean you have to like it. Even so, I sincerely hope and pray that someday, you do, and that you join. It’s obvious that care about the Lord. I’d like it that you should be saved. I do not say this to make you think that I judge you. I do not. I am incapable of doing that. That role belongs to Our Lord. It does mean that when I say I will pray for your salvation, I truly mean it. No idle boast. In charity and truth, after I post this. God bless you, and all here.
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Hey Dutchboy88, what exactly do you think a “Hail Mary” is?
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