Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow
Minneapolis, Minnesota (CNN) –Prior to 2006, few people even knew that then-Minnesota state legislator Keith Ellison was a Muslim. Because of his English name, he said, no one thought to ask.
But five years ago, when he ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives - a race he would go on to win - word of his religious affiliation began to spread.
“When I started running for Congress it actually took me by surprise that so many people were fascinated with me being the first Muslim in Congress,” said Ellison, a Democrat now serving his third term in the House.
“But someone said to me, ‘Look Keith, think of a person of Japanese origin running for Congress six years after Pearl Harbor–this might be a news story.’”
Though Ellison's status as the first Muslim elected to Congress is widely known, fewer are aware that he was born into a Catholic family in Detroit and was brought up attending Catholic schools.
But he said he was never comfortable with that faith.
“I just felt it was ritual and dogma,” Ellison said. “Of course, that’s not the reality of Catholicism, but it’s the reality I lived. So I just kind of lost interest and stopped going to Mass unless I was required to.”
It wasn’t until he was a student at Wayne State University in Detroit when Ellison began, “looking for other things.”
(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...
He has lots of performing to do with you, for us. You are just too valuable to the Body of Christ to set you aside and let you languish. Speedo or not, He will see that you are what He intended you to be.
You were correct in your post and I thank you for posting it.
I am the beneficiary of a wonderful (and expensive) Catholic education. I have a responsibility to those less fortunate to help them where they err.
Psalm 133:1
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!
Welllllll, Dear Bro . . .
as you know, I greatly agree with you . . . and increasingly so in such matters.
Am not posting much . . . not only is the auto-review a drag on spontaneity . . . I just don’t have much heart for it any more.
I have not changed my theology any.
I just don’t handle well Beloved siblings in The Lord grossly misunderstanding to seemingly considering me to be out-right lying or dishonest or something about myself.
I know I’m a tough old bird in a lot of ways. And maybe I should be tougher on such scores as this. I just don’t handle well closer Christian relationships developing serious glitches and there seemingly being no way to have effective communication to resolve such things.
So that’s one big de-motivating flag on the FR play, for me.
Then the old RC/Proddy stuff with the usual fiercely hostile Vatican !!!!CONTROLLERS!!!! has worn very very old. I still care about their eternal destinies and idolatries etc. . . . but I guess not enough to bother much about them any more—particularly not in the fierce back and forth ways. Certainly I’m not going to influence those characters convictions a micro-gram’s anyway.
And, the lurkers will just have to research such stuff on their own—as far as my input having anything to say to them. There’s certainly an abundance of evidence on the web.
Anyway . . . I always have been one more for a group hug than group brick bats. It’s just that FR has tended to trigger and more reinforce the latter over the former. LOL.
And, you, Dear Bro Mad Dawg are an enduring treasure to me. I look forward to long chats on the other side of the Jordan.
I still care even for the RC self designated enemies I don’t prefer to consider enemies. Nevertheless, in terms of dealing with their nastiness on FR, they can just go chase a duck. There are far better things to do.
Love ya Bro Mad Dawg. Thanks for your example and fine prose so often hereon.
Thank you for sharing your concerns, dear brother in Christ!
I guess that's news to the Eastern Orthodox Church that they are now considered Protestants.
Hmmm...now who was that recently asserted someone lacked a sense of humor????
Thanks for your kind reply.
Scripture says *cleanse*.
Now, we all have a choice.
Believe you....
or believe the Bible.
I know Scripture’s credentials. The Holy Spirit is the author.
And yours are......?
You wrote:
“With regard to any subject not just history, my primary interest concerns Jesus Christ who is God enfleshed as a Jew.”
So, you are now essentially contradicting yourself.
“From the Jewish perspective, the inquisition began as an internal Christian matter but became a pretext for harassing them including burning many copies of the Talmud, forced conversions, deaths and expulsions. The story of Antonio Jose de Silva is a case in point.”
1) There is no “Jewish perspective” on the inquisition. Kamen shows you are simply wrong on that score. He is Jewish.
2) The inquisition could not try Jews unless they violated natural law for their jurisdiction covered only Christians so you can put away fantasies about “forced conversions, deaths and expulsions” - none of that was the practice of the inquisition.
3) Antonio Jose de Silva was a baptized Christian as had been his parents - thus he came under the authority of the inquisition in his country. If he was a Jew, that would not have been a case. We was already under arrest when he was but 21 years old for judaizing. He was tortured for information, confessed, was penanced and released. Years later after making hundreds of enemies he was denounced by one of his slaves for judaizing. The evidence came out: he had undergone Jewish circumcision while also joinging a Franciscan order to trick people. Terrible duplicity indeed. Silva clearly was disloyal to both religions. That’s bound to get you in trouble with someone.
“So yes, I am curious whether the Jews are satisfied with the inquisition revisionism.”
Kamen is a Jew. He used the original sources. Care to refute him?
“But as with all things, the important part is whether Christ is satisfied with it.”
And you’re going to judge that? How would Christ judge de Silva for his duplicity?
Quix: you seem to no longer believe what I say about myself. -- Quixo -- nobody believes it anymore -- in fact now everyone believes that the opposite of what's in your posts is true.
In the person of Christ, replacing Christ at that moment. Imitating Christ, acting as Christ. You don’t even see what you are really saying. >>clearly stating that it is Christ, not he the priest, presiding over the miracle of the Eucharist.<<
I can’t even begin to express the disgust at that statement.
>>For the one moment that the Eucharist is consecrated and transubstantiated the priest succeeds in becoming a perfect Imitation of Christ.<<
We’re told all about that type of “becoming a perfect Imitation of Christ” in Revelation.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
“Be like unto”, NOT in the place of.
>>into modern English is a fool’s errand and there is no shortage of fools prowling the Religion Forum.<<
Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Well that would impossible unless you completely change the Greek Text...The Greek Text in the Majority Manuscripts says 'washed'...The manuscripts that your own Roman Jerome translated from say 'washed'...Where are you getting your fake Greek from???
The Greek word used was λύσαντι meaning "released" (see Strong's Concordance 3089). Those translations that say "washed" are just wrong.
No, you are just wrong, again...This is the correct Greek word...
G3068
λούω
louō
loo'-o
A primary verb; to bathe (the whole person; whereas G3538 means to wet a part only, and G4150 to wash, cleanse garments exclusively): - wash.
They probably don't even know what they are posting...It's all cut and paste...
Gen 17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.
Gen 17:11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.
Circumcision was a token; a sign...Symbolism...Exactly like water baptism...
Thank you for reminding me of that...Hope you learned something...
No, it's none of us...Jesus is our pope...And you are right...He's not Catholic...
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