Apparitions Exposed!

Proclaiming the Gospel ^ | former Director for a "Mary, Queen of Peace Center."

[lastchance]

Do you deny that Jesus is God in the flesh? That He is coeternal with the Father? That through Him all things were made and for us men and our salvation He came down from heaven?

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Until recently I was serving as Director of Public Relations for the Queen of Peace Center in Dallas, Texas. This non-profit organization disseminates information and messages from Marian apparitions in Medjugorje ...

Neighbors and close friends of mine knew I was seriously contemplating becoming Roman Catholic.

The author was never Catholic to begin with, and was working for an independent group that promoted a false apparition that has been condemned by the local bishop. And we're supposed to give this unfortunate soul any credibility because...uh...why exactly would we listen to this person?

If I want info about the Mini Cooper, I'm not going to go to a car lot selling counterfeit Mini Coopers

Likewise, if I want to know the teachings of the Catholic Church, I'm not going to consult the crank that wrote this article.

[Quix]

I believe the brazenness of this QUEEN OF HEAVEN stuff that’s been increasing at a faster and faster pace ever since at least Fatima . . .

is another sign of the END TIMES.

[Quix]

‘loyalty to the magicsterical’ is part of the idolatry.

God alone deserves our loyalty of that level.

[campaignPete R-CT]

Caritas is not a Catholic organization. The folks who work there say that they are Catholic. But they operate under nobody’s authority. A former landscaper is their resident theologian.

Do they have non-profit status?
Or is it a closely-held corporation or sole-proprietorship?

[knarf]

Of course not, what does that have to do with what I said?

[pgkdan]

Pathetically sad isn't it?

Yes...quite pathetic and a pretty good reason for Catholic donors to consider the wisdom of giving financial support to attack the Church.

[Alex Murphy]

Do you take kindly to anyone who might belittle your mother? I KNOW that Christ does not. People who do not honor Christ’s mother will suffer his just judgement.

Commonly known as the "step on a crack" Marian apologetic.

"All I have to ask you is one question - did you hurt my Mama?"

[Salvation]

Bump that.

bkaycee, did you get that?

Medjugorje is not a Vatican approved apparition.

Well, whatdya know? How ‘bout that?

[starlifter]

Where did you read that? Who was the author?

[BipolarBob]

Thanks for posting. If Jesus is to be our Example, did He hide and find Easter eggs, wear a crucifix or say three Hail Marys whenever the time seemed right? That may be a rhetorical question for the audience or not. Come to think of it, He worshiped on the Sabbath not Sunday.

[Quix]

I remember reading that Catholic MUST pray to Mary in order to be saved.

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2503880/posts?page=1576#1576

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Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! —Partial Indulgence

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1 - “Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!”

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6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, ‘that she might vanquish sin in every respect.’ [Qx: I guess Christ’s vanquishing sin was unnecessary—or ineffectual without Mary’s assistance?]

9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. ‘No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.’ [Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a ‘Walter Mitty’ role as spouse of Mary? That’s SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT’S role to draw men to God!]

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4 - “Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.’ [Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]

5 - “She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought.” [QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]

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10 - “As Noah’s Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care.”

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8 - “If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?”

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4 - “By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God.”

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WHAT RANK HIDEOUS BLASPHEMY!
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[lastchance]

It has everything to do with what you wrote. To deny that Mary is the Mother of God is to agree with the Nestorian heresy.

[Carpe Cerevisi]

The second denies Jesus' admonition to call no one holy except the Father;

Citation please. What about Eph. 1:1, Phil. 1:1, and Col. 1:2?

The eternal God can have no mother;

We know she's not older than God - this pertains to her giving birth to a divine person.

[ThomasMore]

I remember reading that Catholic MUST pray to Mary in order to be saved

Whoever wrote that was absolutely misinformed and theologically WRONG.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[campaignPete R-CT]

I’ve had enough of this so I am checking out.

I have no patience for people in the reborn Nestorian Church who want to lecture people. Lastchance, you are a more patient man than me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestorianism

[Martin Tell]

The eternal God can have no mother...

Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God?

And who was Jesus' mother?

Simple logic, and the Church from a very early date, both East and West accepted the title, "Mother of God" for Mary. And most of the early Protestant Reformers, including John Calvin, accepted the appropriateness of the title.

I am not a Roman Catholic, but I genuinely do not understand why so many well-meaning Christians feel the need to run down the Virgin Mary. Because of her "Yes" to God, Jesus Christ was born into the world. What a wonderful gift we received through Mary! And what an example for us all to follow.

[dsutah]

I’m a life-long Catholic, (pre-Vat.2, and post-Vat.2), and I don’t recall ever being taught I had to pray to Mary to be ‘saved’! Where did you learn that? I went to Catholic school, and never, ever was told/taught that. I did learn all the special prayers for her to pray for me, for her guidance and intercession. But never was I told I was saved by her by doing so.

Now I do think many people went overboard, and got sort of carried away with that. However, I had always understood that special requests or prayers addressed to Mary, the saints, angels, were meant only for purposes of guidance, for help w/a problem, etc...

In fact, in our big old (Catholic)family Bible, there is a glossary where they address this. They say that prayers to these individuals are only meant for help and guidance in doing the work of the Lord, but never to replace or interfere with the worship that rightly goes to God himself!

In other words, these individuals are only role-models to admire and emulate! They overcame personal sins and problems in their own lives, and continued to repent and to for those sins, and to inspire others to do so. These people by their own admission in their own lifetimes, that they looked to the Lord and strove to follow and emulate him. To worship or pray to them instead of God or Christ was not what they wanted!

One illustration of this was St. Francis of Assisi telling people who were trying to “canonize” him. They were referring to him as special, as a saint before he had even died! He very but firmly, told them not to make him into a saint, because “he could still father children”! In other words, he was still alive, was still human w/temptations he had to struggle with every day, and could still fall down! I read this several years ago, in an article in the “Liguorian” magazine.

[Salvation]

**Commonly known as the “step on a crack” Marian apologetic.**

Why are you attacking me personally.