Posted on 04/12/2011 7:55:27 AM PDT by bkaycee
Wow! You just proved it! You hate peaceand desire war! You congratulate yourself on division and would be concerned with fellowship!
There really is no difference between some soi-disant Christians and Islam. They call their God of hatred by different names, they have a different Holy Book to justify their rejection of beauty, equity, unity, and love.
Just wow!
I won’t say this is a deal BREAKER, but it does imperil the deal. This is serious. I can’t believe you think this and read my paper on Truth!
I'd love to see you answer this rhetorical question of yours.
On second reading, I see even more on this post I'd like to comment on. You make it seem like it is an errant Catholic belief that Jesus is God. Then there's this line:
And Mary gave birth to Jesus and is rightly called the mother of Christ, then by Catholic reasoning, she is to be called the mother of God because Jesus the Christ is God.
I notice how you say it is right to call Mary the mother of Christ, but then say it is Catholic reasoning that she is to be called the mother of God because "Jesus the Christ" is God. Hmmm...
I'm sorry if that doesn't jump through the hoops of those who claim to say works don't matter but then impose exigent shibboleths on ejaculations of faith.
The good news of Jesus Christ our Lord.
Hey, I’d much rather believe the Eucharist from Christ’s own words than your UFO sect with it dominion of aliens.
Your sect stands condemned by its own words.
Quix, what sect are you in?
Also, is the UFO stuff part of their beliefs, or is it only something you believe in personally?
Thanks for your ping.
IMHO: The differences between Calvinist and non_Calvinists on God and man are so stark that I wouldn’t call it a “united faith.” Closer to different religions.
This and the issues such a baptism also illustrate that disunity and the core problem of sola scriptura to having a truly unified Body of Christ.
Let’s start a sidebar on how and when ignorance is culpable and when not. There’s a lot of willful ignorance and a lot of negligent ignorance among our interlocutors.
That is the most generous construction possible on their falsehoods.
No, Quix has already said just what I conjectured: any truth that might make for peace is to be avoided — because what really matters is enmity.
Let’s start a sidebar on how and when ignorance is culpable and when not. There’s a lot of willful ignorance and a lot of negligent ignorance among our interlocutors.
That is the most generous construction possible on their falsehoods.
No, Quix has already said just what I conjectured: any truth that might make for peace is to be avoided — because what really matters is enmity.
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The differences between Calvinist and non_Calvinists on God and man are so stark that I wouldn’t call it a ‘united faith.’
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Or there’s been a kind of visceration of language. One group describes the tenets of another as damnable heresies. Then they claim “unity”.
EITHER heresy means something trivial, OR “unity” means something trivial, OR this claim means something trivial.
I’m afraid that’s not allowed, because that would be “mind reading.”
“One group describes the tenets of another as damnable heresies. Then they claim “unity”.”
They are like the Muslim Sunni and Shia. The Arabic saying is very apt: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Very primitive.
*Guess that’s why standard latin phrases are forbidden and common English usage is not understood.
Yes, there is a reason. In the history of the Church, the Church had to combat various heresies about who Jesus is, who God is, what the Incarnation was, etc. Through the early Councils we arrived at what we now know as the Orthodox Christian Faith concerning Jesus, the Incarnation and the Holy Trinity.
During this time, as part of combatting heresy on the nature of Our Saviour, the dogma of the Mother of God was declared as opposed to those teaching contrary to the Orthodox Faith who wished to call Mary, Mother of Christ. Chief among these heretics was Nestorius.
In the eighth century, St. John Damascene compiled a summary of Church dogma. Below is the portion relating to your post.
But we never say that the holy Virgin is the Mother of Christ(4) because it was in order to do away with the title Mother of God, and to bring dishonour on the Mother of God, who alone is in truth worthy of honour above all creation, that the impure and abominable Judaizing Nestorius(5), that vessel of dishonour, invented this name for an insult(6). For David the king, and Aaron, the high priest, are also called Christ(7), for it is customary to make kings and priests by anointing: and besides every God-inspired man may be called Christ. but yet be is not by nature God: yea, the accursed Nestorius insulted Him Who was born of the Virgin by calling Him God-bearer(8). May it be far from us to speak of or think of Him as God-bearer only(9), Who is in truth God incarnate. For the Word Himself became flesh, having been in truth conceived of the Virgin, but coming forth as God with the assumed nature which, as soon as He was brought forth into being, was deified by Him, so that these three things took place simultaneously, the assumption of our nature, the coming into being, and the deification of the assumed nature by the Word. And thus it is that the holy Virgin is thought of and spoken of as the Mother of God, not only because of the nature of the Word, but also because of the deification of man's nature, the miracles of conception and of existence being wrought together, to wit, the conception the Word, and the existence of the flesh in the Word Himself.…An Exact Exposition of the Orthodox Faith by St John Damascene
I really have no interest in argument for argument sake.
That’s their ‘fail’ reasoning’ at work, again.
True dat.
The interesting question is what is the object?
Unfortunately pondering that is against the rules too.
:)
Thanks for your reply.
D-fendr, I am not so sure that metmom shares the orthodox beliefs about Jesus with us.
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