Posted on 03/25/2011 9:19:12 AM PDT by Colofornian
Written by a local ex-Mormon Christian friend of mine: —
This is the Christ of Mormonism:
1. He lives as a humanoid god on a star near Kolob along with his father god, bound by the physical world; he does not transcend the material.
2. He is the brother of satan.
3. He had to earn his own salvation while he was on earth.
4. He offers his “grace” only to those who work hard enough.
5. He is not from everlasting to everlasting, but was created a finite time ago by his father god, who in turn was also created by his own father god, who in turn was created by his own father god, so on and so forth
6. He is not the greatest being possible.
7. He is finite.
8. His blood is not powerful enough to wipe away any sin.
9. He aided his father in creating earth by organizing already existing matter; he is not capable of creating things out of nothing.
10. He must submit to a moral law that existed before he did.
11. You can one day become just like him.
This is the Christ of the Bible:
1. He is a spirit being that transcends space and time.
2. He is the brother of no creature; He is God, from everlasting to everlasting. No one can claim kinship with Him except those He purchased for Himself on the cross. And He is not the same type of creature they are. He is not a creature, He is God.
3. Jesus is the Author of Salvation; to say that He needed to earn His salvation is absurdity.
4. He offers His sovereign grace to whomever He sovereignly chooses; we are all tainted by sin and vile in His holy eyes. Therefore, no one is more worthy than any other human being. Thus, His grace that He offers is given unconditionally. His grace is true grace, a beautiful gift.
5. He is from everlasting to everlasting. He was never created, and Has been in relationship with the Father and the Holy Spirit forever.
6. He is the greatest being possible, the Most High God. There is no one like Him and there is no one who will ever be anything like Him.
7. He is infinite, both in essence and in His divine perfections.
8. His blood is powerful enough to wipe away any sin, regardless of heinousness and duration. The only sin that cannot be forgive is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; and this is not because the blood of Christ is not powerful enough to wash it away, but because God has so sovereignly decreed that all persons who blaspheme the Holy Ghost should not receive forgiveness.
9. He created everything that exists out of nothing by the mere word of His mouth.
10. There is no external law that He submits to; He is the Author and the Source of the Law.
11. No one can ever come near to obtaining the glory and excellency of Christ.
I am waiting for the “neener neener neener” or the “Nerts on you!”...
Aw you already got it...
Until the Government of the this country bans the LDS, they are free to practice their own way.
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Thats already happened...
The govt wouldnt let the mormons have their own state and be part of the country due to the immorality etc practiced by the mormons
But the mormons pretended to mend their ways...
So the government let them be unbanned..
and the mormons went right on pretending in some form or other...
it is not what you say; mormons should back up what they say. the bible has science and archeology - the book of mormon does. not
Does your religion recognize miracles? To members of other religions, things like claiming a married woman who has had a child is a perpetual virgin is nutty. Miracles are nutty by definition.
You abuse a religion and fellow FR conservatives when you repeatedly attack what they hold dear RATHER than offer them what you hold dear. I'm sorry that I didn't ping you earlier. May God bless you and open your heart so that you will lead with love and not ridicule. WWJD?
No you are not.
It is not what I “heard” it is what I have read from official lds sites.
It is not what I have “heard” except from my uncle the former bishop.
It is not what I have just “heard” it is what I have read on FR, it is what I have been told from rank and file lds.
What I know is that many lds do not know what the core foundations or lds are.
What I know is that many lds have no clue as to what lds really believe.
My Christ is Eternal. lds christ is created.
My Christ is sufficient. lds christ needs help “after all you can do”.
No we are not the same.
Jesus is not my brother, He is my Lord.
My Jesus is Eternal, not created.
You want to claim that jesus is a helper and your brother, go right ahead.
Nope I don’t.
You see I pray to the one and only Eternal God the Father, not some dude that progressed to godhood.
I mean really why would I pray to a progressed guy.
To believe in Atheism; I’d have to have quite an UNbelief in the randomness of numbers...
Merely a subset of the oxymoron: MORMON Christian
We mended nothing!
We threw our GOD under the bus!
If we follow some of our scripture these days and the Powers that Be in SLC find OUT about it; they will have you EXCOMMUNICATED!!!!
--MormonDude(I'm thinking about becoming a FUNDAMENTALIST Mormon. At least THEY obey what is found in D&C 132!)
But it's got curloms and lots of "Z" characters in it!
It's got ~230,000 or more mouldering bodies laying on the ground on the hill Cumorah!
That is a bold faced LIE
Sorry if it disappoints you but I have never lied on these boards. As emphatically as you may disagree it really doesn’t matter.
The fact that we have modern revelation is hard for you to accept, that much is clear. It hardly makes it false. Have a great Saturday!
Just what is a lie to you?
If myself and others say “we read your links” and you say no you did not because other wise you would accept lds, you did not read with a pure heart - that is calling myself and others liars.
Sorry; but circular logic don't get it.
Your 'modern revelation' is demon speak.
The two PERSOanages LIED from the beginning.
There was NO total apostacy like Joseph Smith claimed.
There is NO need for 'more' from the mouths of demons, claiming to be god the father (with a physical body) and his son.
There is NO revelation that trumps what the BIBLE has already said.
And...
...PD cannot point out a single untruth about PRESBYTERIANism.
When it actually happens.
The LDS(LSD) demonic lie that Jesus was a polygamist is an example of just such a great lie. The Bible does not state that Jesus was married and especially not married to more than one woman , yet Mormonism has taught that Jesus was the bridegroom at the wedding in Cana where He changed water into wine, and LDS leadership has taught the duped members that it is likely His polygamy was why He was being persecuted in His day!
Below, we will quote the passages as found even to this day in the LDS Journal of Discourses, and other officially adopted historical records of what the LDS leadership has taught and never corrected ... such lies are what Parsimonious Defrauder asserts are 'modern revelations', proving he/she/it cannot discern a demonic lie because she/he/it will not read and take as God's Word the Bible directions.
PD is right about one thing though, Jonesie, I will not accept 'modern revelation' which contradicts what the Bible teaches. Thanks be to God for His Word to us. Now to expose the great demonic lies of Mormonism which PD insults us by telling us are 'modern revelations' even though they contradict the Bible:
"Jesus was the bridegroom at the marriage of Cana of Galilee...We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into relation whereby he could see his seed [children] before he was crucified (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 82)."There was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and on a careful reading of that transaction, it will be discovered that non less a person that Jesus Christ was married on that occasion. If he was never married, his intimacy with Mary and Martha an the other Mary also whom Jesus loved, must have been highly unbecoming and improper to say the best of it." (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 259).
"In the Church councils, it was spoken of: "Joseph F. Smith_ He spoke upon the marriage in Cana of Galilee. He thought Jesus was the bridegroom and Mary and Martha the brides."(Journal of Wilford Woodruff, July 22, 1883).
"The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age. A belief in doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers. We might almost think they were Mormons (Jedediah Grant, Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 346).
I wonder, do LDS adherents realize that repeating lies makes them liars, whether wittingly or unwittingly? It also shows whom is the father of such an one, even if unwittingly. ... And that dear readers is why some of us continue to contend with these lost souls spouting the drek lies of Mormonism at FR, daily!
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