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Posted on 02/16/2011 3:37:03 PM PST by Gamecock
Ted Haggard's recent profile in GQ magazine finds him seeking attention by getting graphic about his encounters with male escort Mike Jones -- hence his claim that masturbation isn't "sex sex" and speculation that a younger Ted might see himself as bisexual. But some of the comments he shares about restoration and celebrity in a video for Lifetree Cafe are at least as interesting as another trip around the massage table. See the clip below.
In the interview, Haggard talks about other famous folks who've had their reputation rehabilitated in recent years by institutions such as TV networks and pro-sports leagues, including Martha Stewart, Michael Vick and David Letterman. However, he suggests that religious organizations are far less receptive to this phenomenon despite teaching about forgiveness, redemption and judging not lest ye be judged. "The church does not believe in the Bible," he announces at one point. "We market the Bible."
Haggard's video is keyed to a "temptation" theme that will be the focus of conversations at Lifetree Cafe locations such as Concordia Lutheran Church, 13371 W. Alameda Parkway in Lakewood, during the week of February 20. Look below to see the clip and get more information from a press release from Lifetree, which is based in Loveland.
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Who?
**judging not lest ye be judged**
Classic liberal misuse of that passage.
Former president of the National Association of Evangelicals and megachurch pastor.
Just before he got caught with a gay prostitute I heard him say he didn’t sin.
“The church does not believe in the Bible,” he announces at one point. “We market the Bible.”
Just based on that quote he’s not someone I would want as a pastor even if he didn’t have the rest of the baggage he carries.
Yes. Parse the Bible and make it mean anything you want to.
Judgement is central to the Bible. So is true repentance.
**judging not lest ye be judged**
Whittle this statement down to its basest meaning to liberals and others.
What they want is lawlessness, as well as the ability to live morally bankrupt.
Has this man never heard of the "Ten Commandments?".
Ted HaggardWho?
If only.
By that quote, he confesses to being a con-man, hypocrite, and narcissistic sociopath. His own mouth condemns him.
Holy Writ says, TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN, MUCH IS REQUIRED. If he wanted to be PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF EVANGELICALS, he probably should have avoided his trysts with the guys. THAT is why HE isn’t restored. Another 40 years...in the desert. And then he can come out and CRY.
Ted Haggard’s new video: Martha Stewart & Michael Vick got restored — so why not me?
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Cause you’re white. Cause you’re Christian.
I can think of other reasons - but this will do for a start.
Oh look! Another holy roller, not quite so holy. Color me shocked!
Ted Haggard & I live in the same city and I know many members of his former church.
I’ve been appalled at the way some of these people have turned their backs on him and his family.
It seems to me that a lot of people turned their backs because Haggard was no longer famous or because associating with him would be embarrassing. To turn away from someone who is lost and clearly in need just seems wrong to me. He obviously has serious, hard-to-solve problems and I’m not sure that even he knows what they are or how to solve them.
That doesn’t give us permission to walk away from someone who needs for and is asking for help, though. The day before his scandal unfolded, he was loved and supported. The day after, most of the people who had supported him turned their backs on him. He didn’t “go bad” in just two days; he simply became a liability to know.
When he says that Martha Stewart & Michael Vick were “restored”, I think he means that they were accepted back into society whereas he has not been.
Christians really shouldn’t treat each other that way.
Got any evidence to support that statement?
Because (A) he’s not pro-abortion and (B) he doesn’t throw touchdown passes.
Well, he MUST be a Christian. If we apply liberal doses of leftist logic, we see a low down hypocrite caught in a same sex relationship.
Now if he was a democrat.... He would have been re-elected to Congress.
Well, Ministers of God’s Word are supposed to be held to a higher standard than NFL players, TV hostesses and politicians.
Well, we are supposed to love one another and nurture and help restore each other. Haggard, however, surely recognizes that he will not be in line to preach, teach, handle large sums of money and other responsibilites that he once did. Some people are respectersof persons, and once a person louses up and are no longer in the “who’s who and what’s what and who’s got what”, they just don’t socialize any more with those who can no longer propel them on their quest to social climb. Maybe Haggard needs to redefine his definition of friends and be a friend to those who are poor and unloved himself and quit contemplating his own bellybutton, if that’s indeed what he’s doing.
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