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1 posted on 02/16/2011 3:37:07 PM PST by Gamecock
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2 posted on 02/16/2011 3:40:16 PM PST by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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Ted Haggard

Who?

3 posted on 02/16/2011 3:41:42 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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“The church does not believe in the Bible,” he announces at one point. “We market the Bible.”

Just based on that quote he’s not someone I would want as a pastor even if he didn’t have the rest of the baggage he carries.


6 posted on 02/16/2011 3:46:40 PM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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Ted Haggard’s new video: Martha Stewart & Michael Vick got restored — so why not me?

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Cause you’re white. Cause you’re Christian.

I can think of other reasons - but this will do for a start.


11 posted on 02/16/2011 4:21:53 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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Oh look! Another holy roller, not quite so holy. Color me shocked!


12 posted on 02/16/2011 4:37:07 PM PST by wyowolf
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Ted Haggard & I live in the same city and I know many members of his former church.

I’ve been appalled at the way some of these people have turned their backs on him and his family.

It seems to me that a lot of people turned their backs because Haggard was no longer famous or because associating with him would be embarrassing. To turn away from someone who is lost and clearly in need just seems wrong to me. He obviously has serious, hard-to-solve problems and I’m not sure that even he knows what they are or how to solve them.

That doesn’t give us permission to walk away from someone who needs for and is asking for help, though. The day before his scandal unfolded, he was loved and supported. The day after, most of the people who had supported him turned their backs on him. He didn’t “go bad” in just two days; he simply became a liability to know.

When he says that Martha Stewart & Michael Vick were “restored”, I think he means that they were accepted back into society whereas he has not been.

Christians really shouldn’t treat each other that way.


14 posted on 02/16/2011 4:44:54 PM PST by mountainbunny
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Because (A) he’s not pro-abortion and (B) he doesn’t throw touchdown passes.


17 posted on 02/16/2011 4:57:57 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule
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The simple truth is he cannot play quarterback as well as Vick, and he cannot get viewers/readers like Martha. Life is like the La Cosa Nostra. If you earn you stay around, if not you get wacked.


22 posted on 02/16/2011 6:56:05 PM PST by gusty
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Well, for one thing Martha Stewart was railroaded and the victim of horrible legal advice. She just stumbled into a very unfortunate situation that spun out of control. Nobody thought for a moment that she was a pervert with a disgusting secret life.


23 posted on 02/16/2011 8:14:27 PM PST by Minn
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Don’t cha just feel Ted’s humility and repentence oozing through.


27 posted on 02/17/2011 4:01:46 AM PST by circlecity
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