Posted on 02/12/2011 6:20:06 PM PST by topcat54
Joel McDurmon, hosting today's show for Gary DeMar, exposes End-times Dysfunction (E.D.) for what it is. Joel shares with doomsdayers how they can get relief from their paranoia and troubled souls.
>> “One does not need suggestive allegorizing to understand one simple concept, that at the Second Coming is the last trumpet.” <<
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Deception!
Different “trumpet.”
The second comming is a broad event that will spread over 1000 years.
The “last trump” is not the 7th Trumpet of the Revelation. It is a group of blasts on the ram’s horn at the feast of trumpets. No amount of twisting can change that fact. The 7th trumpet will be more than 1000 years after the “last trump.”
There is nothing about this that is in any way “allegory;” it is the literal and specific word of God as recorded.
The replacementeers are truly deceiving here. That makes them the adversary’s chief tools in an attempt to deceive the very elect.
I know the RM frowns on plagiarizing. And by claiming it as your own it makes me think you know more than you may actually know about the subject … until I check. And it makes me less likely to take it seriously, since you didn't take it seriously enough to answer it yourself.
I asked you the question not some anonymous web site. Perhaps you just picked the first thing that came along in your google search whether you personally believe it or not.
Hardly.
Different “trumpet.”
Futurist assertion.
The second comming is a broad event that will spread over 1000 years.
Your assumption. Nothing in the Bible to substantiate (otherwise you would speak from the Bible and not off the cuff).
Yada yada ...
“The day of the Lord” is used 19 times in the Old Testament and 4 times in the New Testament. It isn’t used in the same sense or reference each time. I would contend that trying to tie the term to either the Rapture or Armageddon or anything else every time it is used is error.
Sorry, I keep forgetting that you reject the word of God, especially the Revelation - my bad.
I don’t pretend to know all the rock-solid,
undeniable specific details of such issues.
Howver, i believe that your interpretation has a LOT more Biblical foundation BY FAR
than the hideous RUBBERIZED HISTORY, RUBBERIZED PSEUDO-’BIBLE’ nonsense of the REPLACEMENTARIANS.
It’s the information and viewpoint we are discussing here. If you can’t deal with the information or refute evidence just say so. Don’t go hiding behind accusations.
>> The “last trump” is not the 7th Trumpet of the Revelation. It is a group of blasts on the ram’s horn at the feast of trumpets. No amount of twisting can change that fact. The 7th trumpet will be more than 1000 years after the “last trump.”<<
You are absolutely right. The coming Rosh Hashanah could well be an exiting time.
Still working to assemble a brain.... yes ;-P
Now, now, Quix — it’s not nice to criticise CB like that and say that his ..... is based on error and suppostion and makes a mockery of the truth of scripture.
You didn’t realize that came from scripture?
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Paul was the one who first wrote those words. Why don’t you ask him. You’re the people who can talk to the dead right?
Actually, topcat54 is a Biblically-sophisticated Christian, who loves the Lord, and treats the hobo saints with more patience and compassion than may, perhaps, be reasonable. He embraces the whole Bible as the Word of God, and diligently seeks to interpret God's Word by God's Word.
People who use the New York Slimes or the Washington Compost as their primary tools of eisogesis have trouble understanding Biblical Christians, let alone the Book of Revelation. John's Apocalypse is perhaps the most densely hyperlinked book in the Bible. It's almost like an index to the whole Bible, and is conveniently located at the end. FOR EXAMPLE: if you compare "lectionary" versions of Apocalypse and Ezekiel, the latter echoes the former image by image all the way through. To appreciate that, however, one needs to understand prophetic language, and the use of word-pictures in the Bible. (I'm still waiting to see that hooker with a butt big enough to cover seven mountains! Talk about a heavy date!)
Biblical Christians have compassion upon, and sympathy for, the hobo saints. We recognize them as members of the family, even if they refuse to avail themselves of all the Owner has purchased for them, and insist on riding the undercarriage. We regret the way they let the shysters and snake-oil salesmen defraud them of what the Master wanted them to have. We do not question their integrity or their relationship with God -- just their sanity. The dispensationalists are the crazy relations we love, but have to make excuses for all the time. Fortunately, no one takes them too seriously; they mostly mumble nonsense to themselves in the corner.
Your ranting becomes less valuable to intelligent debate every time I see you post. Accusing people of not using scripture to substantiate their views is weak and your spiteful vitriol is only worthy of contempt.
Where is "thief in the night" used?
Is that part of your mishnah, or are you cherry picking web sites again?
It's most certainly not in the Bible.
I’m not the one cherry picking web sites without attribution. I wonder who has something to hide.
Did I misunderstand you here? I apologize. Honestly, I can’t tell when you say “return of Christ” whether you are referring to the rapture return of Christ or the Second Coming return of Christ ... or some other yet undiscovered return of Christ.
I don’t know how you guys keep all this nonsense straight. It’s a daunting task, especially when you finally try to tie your theories together with what is actually in the Bible. To quote one of your little friends, “the mind boggles.”
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