Posted on 02/12/2011 6:20:06 PM PST by topcat54
Joel McDurmon, hosting today's show for Gary DeMar, exposes End-times Dysfunction (E.D.) for what it is. Joel shares with doomsdayers how they can get relief from their paranoia and troubled souls.
Guess what, Rashputin — the MPF now admits that he passed ridiculous a long time ago!
So put Revelation 20:7 “And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea” into context for us Rashputin. Surely you would want to help us out. Give us the ten minutes to think about it since you say we haven’t.
BTW: I do notice that you will talk about someone and not give them the courtesy of including them in the ping so mentioning the “signal the colored letters and funny pictures crowd” rings a little hollow.
INDEED.
HOWEVER,
when they don’t have
—history
nor
—Scripture
nor
—logic & reason
on their side . . . what can we expect?
. . . besides . . .
daffynitionaries, rubberized histories, rubberized ‘Bibles,’ convoluted rubberized pseudo pretend ‘logic,’
—farce to the max
—harshly personally assaultive diatribes
—absurdities to the max
—silly assertions to the max . . .
LOLOL! How precious.
That is correct. At the moment of the Second Coming, which is the very end of the thousand years. Because of the language used I take it to be a very brief period of time when Satan is released.
1 Thessalonians 4:16,17, 1 Corinthians 15:52 … You’ll notice that these verses state that all believers will be “cought up with them in the clouds, “in the twinkling of an eye” so obviously we are no longer on earth and we are changed.
That is correct. At the moment of the Second Coming.
Now, I ask you again. If the believers are safe with Jesus and the earth has been destroyed, who can Satan be released to deceive if he is confined to hell and the believers are safe with Jesus?
As I said, Satan is released prior to the Second Coming for a very short time. This is at the conclusion of the thousand years. As all these passages testify, at the Second Coming is the day of the Lord, as a thief in the night, the general resurrection from the dead and judgment of the nations, disposition of righteous and unrighteous, , the passing away of the current heavens and earth, all of this on that day. Then comes the new Jerusalem, the Bride of Christ and Church of the firstborn, down from the new heavens to the new earth.
I can understand why you might be confused, but it’s all perfectly consistent with Scripture.
The key is that the Bible teaches there is but one Second Coming. All the time-bound events on this present heaven and earth happen either prior to the Second Coming or are simultaneous with the Second Coming.
You explained it perfectly. Thanks. And some are looking for ‘one word’. ;)
As editor-surveyor posted, the customs and feasts are so important in understanding; namely, one, the rapture.
I should say "following the thousand years." The Second Coming is distinct from and immediately following the events of the thousand years.
More tracking skills in your elusive quest for the phantom rapture text in the DSS?
One does not need suggestive allegorizing to understand one simple concept, that at the Second Coming is the last trumpet. Not the next to the last, or seventh from the last, not this feast or that festival, or any such nonsense.
That’s what it literally says. There’s no need to invent a new testament mishnah to get it right.
Well, that's sooooooooo eighties. I'm trying to detach them from the little triceratops lookin critter (he's cool green with fangs and claws) they're on to use them for hat hooks. Do you know a good solvent that will break the adhesion on bullchit paste and not damage the triceratops critter or the horns?
Regards
“Mostly Harmless.”
Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
So you would say that Christians are “caught up” “in the twinkling of an eye” and everything else happens “on that day” as you said.
>>As all these passages testify, at the Second Coming is the day of the Lord, as a thief in the night, the general resurrection from the dead and judgment of the nations, disposition of righteous and unrighteous, , the passing away of the current heavens and earth, all of this on that day.<<
Yet Satan will have time to “deceive the nations”, “gather them together”, “the number of whom is as the sand of the sea” and encompass the camp of the saints to wage war all on that one day? That would indeed be a “very brief period of time” as you said.
Well, this is what I say. You had better come up with a more scriptural view of all of that because it defies what scripture actually says.
>>Perhaps some NPD folks became ridiculous just after their eye-teeth roots destroyed their brains?<<
Common Cronos, show us how your brain hasn’t been destroyed and explain who Satan is deceiving after the thousand years. Surely you want this to get back to a substantive debate.
Yes. I would.
Yet Satan will have time to “deceive the nations”, “gather them together”, “the number of whom is as the sand of the sea” and encompass the camp of the saints to wage war all on that one day? That would indeed be a “very brief period of time” as you said.
Yes, it would, in a brief time just prior to the Second Coming at the end of the thousand years.
Well, this is what I say. You had better come up with a more scriptural view of all of that because it defies what scripture actually says.
And the burden is on you to prove your assertion. Should be easy enough to do. Just don’t ask us all to drink Mr. Darby’s kool aid in order to see things your way (like an allegorized view of the day of the Lord [lasting a thousand+ years] or the last trumpet [not really the last]). Ain’t gonna happen.
With regards to this argument, I have no opinion or belief, that’s why I like reading your points and topcats and the rest. But picture boy keeps interrupting these....
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