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Pope includes Hindu verses in prayers on Good Friday
merinews ^ | Apr 14, 2009

Posted on 02/08/2011 7:12:21 AM PST by Gamecock

HINDUS HAVE applauded Pope Benedict for including verse from ancient Hindu scripture Upanishads in the Good Friday Meditations and Prayers led by him at Roman Colosseum.

Acclaimed Hindu statesman Rajan Zed, in a statement in Nevada (USA) today, said that it was a remarkable gesture from Pope and invited him to study more ancient Hindu scriptures, which were very rich in philosophical thought. He or other Hindu scholars would gladly provide the help and resources in this regard, if asked, Zed added.

Zed, who is president of Universal Society of Hinduism, also commended His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI for inclusion of a verse from India’s Nobel Laureate Rabindranath Tagore’s Gitanjali and reference to peace icon Mahatma Gandhi in these prayers.

This year’s 'Way of the Cross at the Colesseum' Meditations and Prayers on Good Friday, led by Pope, included well-known verse from Brahadaranyakopanishad (“Lead me from the unreal to the real, from darkness to light, from death to immortality”), line from Tagore’s Gitanjali (“Give me the strength to make my love fruitful in service”) and reference to Mahatma Gandhi.

Rajan Zed stressed that all religions should work together for a just and peaceful world. Dialogue would bring us mutual enrichment, he added.

Pope Benedict heads the Roman Catholic Church, which is the largest of the Christian denominations. Hinduism, oldest and third largest religion of the world, has about one billion adherents and moksha (liberation) is its ultimate goal.


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To: metmom
And yet the Catholic church denounces and condemns Protestants.

Really? I think you would be hard pressed to find any real evidence of this in, say, the last generation. You may find condemnation of Protestant theology creeping into Catholic practice. I personally would welcome more clarity in this area instead of the feel good "ecumenism" to which we are often subjected.

As has been pointed out below this report badly distorts what actually happened.

But even so, would foolish behavior by a Protestant leader nullify your belief in that faith? I would certainly hope not, but I could provide numerous examples.

41 posted on 02/08/2011 7:55:01 AM PST by jtal
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To: The Comedian

Between Hindus and Christians we have the two main groups in opposition to the Caliphate.


42 posted on 02/08/2011 7:55:08 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: metmom
And yet the Catholic church denounces and condemns Protestants.

Actually, we consider you to be our brothers and sisters in Christ, united to the Church (though imperfectly) by our common baptism.

Many of you, OTOH, consider us to be pagans bound for hell. Do I really need to name names?

43 posted on 02/08/2011 7:55:28 AM PST by Campion
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To: Salvation
I have another quote, that has been attributed both to Mark Twain and to the 19th century Baptist preacher Charles Spurgeon:

"A lie can travel halfway round the world while the truth is putting on its shoes."

44 posted on 02/08/2011 7:56:56 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

You’re not allowed to put ACTUAL quotes on these threads! It cuts the buzz of the posters.

So here’s my prayer as I read the thread.

Thank You, Holy Lord for making me so busy with my darling husband and wonderful children, all healthy and happy, that I don’t have the time to devote to belittling and condemning Your children who find You through a different route than I do. Help those who have that obsession to be so distracted by your Wonderous Gifts, that they may chose to live in Your Light rather than blocking it for others.

In the Name of Jesus Christ, Our Lord.
Amen


45 posted on 02/08/2011 7:57:13 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: DarthVader

But, are the words that were spoken (Possibly out of context, I don’t know ... I’m not Hindi) - in any manner out of line with Christianity?

One way to reach out to non-Christians is to find ‘common ground’. I see nothing in these sentences that reject or denounce Christianity. If the goal is to gather the lost sheep - then reaching out to them in this manner is both smart, as well as wise.

If you opt to condemn them, reject them and criticize them - I do not believe you will attract a lot of followers.


46 posted on 02/08/2011 7:57:44 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Gamecock
Act 17:22 ¶ Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, [Ye] men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. Act 17:23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Act 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; Act 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; Act 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: Act 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. Act 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Act 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by [that] man whom he hath ordained; [whereof] he hath given assurance unto all [men], in that he hath raised him from the dead. Act 17:32 And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this [matter].
47 posted on 02/08/2011 7:58:29 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Gamecock
Eastern meditation: Pope's Way of the Cross adopts an Asian viewpoint

Some relevant quotes:

"This year's meditation for Pope Benedict XVI's Good Friday Way of the Cross has a distinctly Asian perspective, referring to Hindu scriptures, an Indian poet and Mahatma Gandhi.

But the linchpin of this Eastern reflection is the passion of Jesus Christ. In that sense, it reflects Pope Benedict's view of Christianity's relationship with the non-Christian world -- that the Gospel enlightens and fulfills the beliefs of other faiths.

The immediate assumption among many Vatican observers was that the choice of an Indian would serve to highlight religious freedom issues in the wake of anti-Christian violence in parts of India.

Archbishop Menamparampil has assumed a leading role in conflict resolution among warring ethnic groups in northeast India, and his Good Friday meditation reflects his conviction that violence is never the way to resolve problems.

He follows that approach in his "Via Crucis" meditation, focusing on the way Jesus deals with violence and adversity, and finding parallels in Asian culture.

Condemned to death before the Sanhedrin, for example, Jesus' reaction to this injustice is not to "rouse the collective anger of people against the opponent, so that they are led into forms of greater injustice," the archbishop wrote.

Instead, he said, Jesus consistently confronts violence with serenity and strength, and seeks to prompt a change of heart through nonviolent persuasion -- a teaching Gandhi brought into public life in India with "amazing success."

Etc, etc......full story at link for those who don't mind reading a balanced, sane discussion.

48 posted on 02/08/2011 7:58:33 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Campion; Alex Murphy; metmom
***There's nothing particularly pagan about that verse. No pagan deity is mentioned.***

So what degree of paganism is acceptable? 18.4% 71.9%?

49 posted on 02/08/2011 7:58:44 AM PST by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: Hodar; DarthVader

See post #24.


50 posted on 02/08/2011 8:00:58 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Campion

Not many and that’s the sad part of all of this.
It’s always the same FReepers.

Remember this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2017086/posts


51 posted on 02/08/2011 8:01:27 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: marshmallow

See post #24.


52 posted on 02/08/2011 8:01:42 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480
Ah, so he didn't pray the pagan verse. It was a quotation.

Thank you for taking the time to dig past the headlines. I had a feeling there was more to this than was being reported, and that the case you have outlined was the case.

That said, if one prayed, “Lord Jesus, lead me from the unreal to the real, from darkness to light, from death to immortality.”, would that be so onerous? In fact, it sounds like a familliar concept.

53 posted on 02/08/2011 8:01:49 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: jtal

Since you mentioned it, why DID the previous pope kiss the koran?


54 posted on 02/08/2011 8:02:48 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Gamecock
Do I have to answer that question today, the day of Tiwaz (the god of victorious glory in battle), or can I wait until tomorrow, the day of Wodin (the god of wisdom and magic, ruler of Asgard)?

Don't use numbers today, Gamecock. Roman numerals were invented by pagans. So were Hindu-Arabic numbers.

55 posted on 02/08/2011 8:03:47 AM PST by Campion
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To: Campion

LOL!


56 posted on 02/08/2011 8:05:23 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Hodar

***One way to reach out to non-Christians is to find ‘common ground’.***

‘cause there are SOOOO many Hindus attending a Catholic services on Good Friday.

When seeking common ground is you will often find yourself on a slippery slope.


57 posted on 02/08/2011 8:05:33 AM PST by Gamecock (The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both historically credible and existentially satisfying. T.K.)
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To: Pyro7480
I like that one too. Which proves this thread -- going around the world again like it did in 2009.


58 posted on 02/08/2011 8:06:33 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: netmilsmom

Great prayer.


59 posted on 02/08/2011 8:07:15 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Thanks!
I hope it works.


60 posted on 02/08/2011 8:08:17 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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