Pope includes Hindu verses in prayers on Good Friday

Maybe the problem is that so many outside The Church reject Christ's words in John 6:

Who says I'm rejecting John 6? Certainly not. My church celebrates the Lord's Supper all the time.

Besides we don't need to corrupt the Scriptures in order to prove a 'doctrine' that was never passed until 1215.

Catholic version of John 6:58 - This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.

NASV: This is the bread which came down out of heaven; not as the fathers ate and died;he who eats this bread will live forever."

KJV: This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

NKJV: This is the bread which came down from heaven—not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever.”

CEV: The bread that comes down from heaven isn't like what your ancestors ate. They died, but whoever eats this bread will live forever.

Greek Text: οὗτός ἐστιν ὁ ἄρτος ὁ ἐξ οὐρανοῦ καταβάς, οὐ καθὼς ἔφαγον οἱ πατέρες καὶ ἀπέθανον· ὁ τρώγων τοῦτον τὸν ἄρτον ζήσει εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα.

For Jesus to bluntly explain that the type of bread He is speaking of is not like what the fathers ate [real bread, i.e, manna] is a blunt fact that only a natural man void of the Spirit of God could possibly miss.

Now notice the sleight of hand the RCC uses to promote its heresy: The Greek word οὐ (ou) is left out of the RCC version so now the CORRUPTED text says: 'your ancestors [or fathers] ate...' striking out the negative of οὐ (ou)which means no, or NOT, the expression of full and absolute negation. This then leads the reader with the impression that Christ is speaking of literal bread, rather than the figurative expression the Lord intended. The correct text reads: "Not as your ancestors [or fathers] ate"...., which is precisely what is found in the uncorrupted texts posted above. A full rebuttal by Christ Himself of this heretical doctrine!

This is the real problem for so many 'inside' a corrupted church. They feel the need to futher 'corrupt' Scripture in order to propagate an unbiblical doctrine.

Reminder - Revelation 22:19 - and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.

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So again...It doesn’t matter how you or any catholic chooses to split hairs, excuse, reconfigure, and interject opinions of what the Pope did...what does matter is how the Hindus perceived this event. To them......

...The Pope validated the Hindu faith and it’s practices of which they celebrated this.

Further He did not oppose their teachings and pagan religion rather he encouraaged inclusiveness, which is exactly the universalists agenda to bring all religions under one roof....which will one day be controlled by the anti-Christ.

Additionally Hindus easily respect and honor all faiths since they have and teach multitudes of deities and that each man can become his own God...they are very instrumental in pushing hard the inclusion of all faiths, and easiest to manipulate by the power which is behind a one world religion.

You missed it....

So again...It doesn’t matter how you or any catholic chooses to split hairs, excuse, reconfigure, and interject opinions of what the Pope did...what does matter is how the Hindus perceived this event. To them......

...The Pope validated the Hindu faith and it’s practices of which they celebrated this. ....Further He did not oppose their teachings and pagan religion... rather he encouraaged inclusiveness, which is exactly the universalists agenda to bring all religions under one roof....which will one day be controlled by the anti-Christ.

Additionally Hindus easily respect and honor all faiths since they have and teach multitudes of deities and that each man can become his own God...they are very instrumental in pushing hard the inclusion of all faiths, and easiest to manipulate by the power which is behind a one world religion.

Check this out:

Dog Receives Communion

Looks like the RCC's are now giving dog's the eucharist. LOL!

(And yes I know its an 'Anglican Priest', but since they have now joined with Rome they are Vatican approved. Spin all you want).

starting from John 6:30, we read

30 So they asked him, “What sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do?
31 Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’
32 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven.
33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”
34 “Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread.”
35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty.
36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe.

They asked Him for a sign, saying that Moses gave them manna in the desert. If Jesus (according to them) was aspiring to the level of Moses, He should do something as big as that.

and Jesus says something strange to them -- He says Moses didn't give you bread, My father did, and bread that comes down from heaven. Then He says that HE is the bread of life, HE is the manna -- and manna was to be eaten.

The Jews made the same mistake you did, which is to think he was speaking as a metaphor.

Yet Jesus REPEATED the same thing, saying

48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died.
50 But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die.
51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”

And now the crowd is openly rebellious saying “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”
And

53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.
56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.
57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.
58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.

Note -- Jesus doesn't clear up the Metaphor, like he did in Matt. 16:5–12

5 When they went across the lake, the disciples forgot to take bread.
6 “Be careful,” Jesus said to them. “Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”
7 They discussed this among themselves and said, “It is because we didn’t bring any bread.”
8 Aware of their discussion, Jesus asked, “You of little faith, why are you talking among yourselves about having no bread?
9 Do you still not understand? Don’t you remember the five loaves for the five thousand, and how many basketfuls you gathered?
10 Or the seven loaves for the four thousand, and how many basketfuls you gathered?
11 How is it you don’t understand that I was not talking to you about bread? But be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”
12 Then they understood that he was not telling them to guard against the yeast used in bread, but against the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.

So, Jesus DOES indicate when it is a metaphor and when it isn't.
In this case, look at the reaction of his DISCIPLES, people who had heard his teachings for so long and followed him

60 On hearing it, many of his disciples said, “This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?”...

66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.

You cannot say that this was just bread and wine of that this is a metphor for coming and having faith in the Lord or some kind of metphor for believing in Christ because of the reaction of the Jews and the very language -- to eat one's flesh and drink the blood means to do violence on some one. You see it even in Hindi where a threat is "Mein tera Khoon pie jaongaa" or "I will drink your blood" -- and this is among vegetarians! To drink a persons blood means a serious threat of injury.So, if you believe that this was just a metphor, you mean to say that Christ is rewarding people for crucifying Him?!! That's nonsensical, sorry.

You cannot even say it was a metaphor by incorreclty comparing it to John 10:9 (I am the gate/doorway) or John 15:1 (I am the true vine) is because this is not referenced in the entire verse in the same way as John 6 which shows the entire incident from start to finish of Jesus saying His body is to be eaten, repeating it and seeing his disciples go and not correcting them (as he did in Matthew 16). Even in the literal sense -- Christ says he is the gateway to heaven and the vine such that we get nourishment with him as the connecting path. But John 6 is much much more than mere symbolism as He categorically states that "For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed" (John 6:55).

Even at the end of John 6, Jesus rebukes those who think of what He has said as a metaphor by emphasising that

61 Aware that his disciples were grumbling about this, Jesus said to them, “Does this offend you?
62 Then what if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before!
63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit[e] and life.
64 Yet there are some of you who do not believe.”

Jesus repeats the rebuke against just thinking in terms of human logic (Calvin's main problem) by saying

John 8:15 You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one.
16 But if I do judge, my decisions are true, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me.

Just using human logic as Calvinist thought does, without God's blessings behind it fails in grace.John 6:63 does not refer to Jesus's statement of his own flesh, if you read in context but refers to using human logic instead of dwelling on God's words.

And, all of this is confirmed in Paul's writings to the Corinthians (1 Cor. 10:16)

6 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?

and also 1 Cor 11:27-29

27 So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord.
28 Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup.
29 For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves.

How clear can Paul get? "The bread IS a participation in the body of Christ" and "who eats the bread... will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord" This is not just mere bread and wine anymore. This is the body and blood of Christ.

Ping

Note also that the Earliest Christians also said any consideration of this as just a metaphor was false -- Ignature of Antioch (disciple of Apotle John) wrote in AD 110 wrote about heretics who bstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in his goodness, raised up again" (Letter to the SMyrnaens). The earliest Christians beleived this to be the ACTUAL body of Christ. Why, they were also accused by pagans of being cannibals and Justin MArtyr had to write a defence to the Emperor saying "Not as common bread or common drink do we receive these; but since Jesus Christ our Savior was made incarnate by the word of God and had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so too, as we have been taught, the food which has been made into the Eucharist by the Eucharistic prayer set down by him, and by the change of which our blood and flesh is nourished, . . . is both the flesh and the blood of that incarnated Jesus"

in view of this overwhelming evidence from scripture and supplemented by the practise and belief of the earliest Christians, we can only say that there IS a real presence in the Eucharist. Martin Luther too believed it -- he said that Who, but the devil, has granted such license of wresting the words of the holy Scripture? Who ever read in the Scriptures, that my body is the same as the sign of my body? or, that is is the same as it signifies? What language in the world ever spoke so? It is only then the devil, that imposes upon us by these fanatical men. --> only Calvin/Zwingli turned around what Christ had said

Nice fake limerk, not as good as the joke about being shaved by Grace.

Even our Lutheran brethern say it well

From the Lutheran LCMS.org website

All three accounts of the institution of the Lord's Supper in the Gospels (Matthew 26:26-29; Mark 14:22-25; Luke 22:14-23) explicitly state that Jesus took BREAD, blessed it, broke it, and gave it to his disciples saying, "Take, eat; this [i.e., this BREAD, which I have just blessed and broken and am now giving to you] is my body." Jesus uses similar language in referring to "the cup" (of wine) as "his blood."...

Perhaps the most explicit expression of this truth, however, is found in 1 Cor. 10:16-17, where Paul writes: "The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread."

Paul clearly says here that we all "partake" of "BREAD" when we receive the Lord's Supper--even as we also partake of and "participate in" the true body of Christ. And he says that we all "partake" of the wine (the cup), even as we also partake of the true blood of Christ.

Similarly, in 1 Cor. 11:26, Paul says: "For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes." Paul expressly states here ........................that those who eat this bread and drink this cup are also partaking of the true body and blood of Christ.

So "real" is this participation in Christ's body and blood, in fact, that (according to Paul) those who partake of the bread and wine "in an unworthy manner" are actually guilty of "profaning the body and blood of the Lord" (1 Cor. 11:27). (Partaking of the Lord's Supper "in a worthy manner," of course, is not something that we "do" or "accomplish" on the basis of our "personal holiness" or "good works." It means receiving God's free and gracious gifts of life and forgiveness offered in the Lord's Supper in true repentance produced by the work of the Spirit through God's Law and in true faith in Christ and his promises produced by God's Spirit through the Gospel).

Even Martin luther weighed in in favor of the True Presence in the Eucharist when he said:

Who, but the devil, has granted such license of wresting the words of the holy Scripture?

Who ever read in the Scriptures, that my body is the same as the sign of my body?

or, that is is the same as it signifies? What language in the world ever spoke so?

It is only then the devil, that imposes upon us by these fanatical men.

Why do you still reject Christ's words?

Nope not paying any attention to your corrupted scriptures. You never once addressed what the Vatican did by OMITTING ou - NOT in John 6:58. Skimmed right over that didn’t you?

But then you can’t can you? If you want to keep crucifying our Lord over and over and over that’s your problem. I tend to believe what HE said, “IT IS FINISHED!”

Its really interesting watching you guys fall all over each other trying to defend the indefensible.

It's quite interesting bit about your clique's tactics.

The deliberate deceit, especially when trying to win over new converts. Its deplorable and pathetic. You have a different doctrine, oh yeah, not only different but false.

That’s fine if you want to follow after a false prophet like Calvin thats your business. But when seeking to convert someone at least tell them the truth - stop hiding the “God creates robots to burn in hell” doctrines, or “Jesus died only for some elite brahmins” doctrines, and so on. Be up front about it all instead of trying to hide it under a rug. That’s what we object to - THE DECEIT.

Jesus never operated through lying. But Satan does. That should be a big ole red flag clue that something in your cult isn’t right.

It’s funny watching you blather on. Why do you keep denying Christ? Why do you keep denying Christ’s own words in John 6?

Next you’ll be telling me that you don’t believe the Baptism is for remission of sins.

Do note that the Holy Spirit makes present the mystery of Christ, not the priest.

The Epiclesis ("invocation upon") is the intercession in which the priest begs the Father to send the Holy Spirit the Sanctifier, so that the offerings may become the body and blood of Christ and that the faithful by receiving them, may themselves become a living offering to God.23

In the epiclesis, the Church asks the Father to send his Holy Spirit (or the power of his blessing178) on the bread and wine, so that by his power they may become the body and blood of Jesus Christ and so that those who take part in the Eucharist may be one body and one spirit Do note that the ritual and the belief in the True Presence of Christ in the Eucharist is shared by Catholics, Orthodox, Copts, Armenians, Assyrians, even Lutherans (yes, there is a difference in the 'how' but Lutherans too believe that Christ's body and blood are REALLY present in the Eucharist), so this is not just "a Catholic thing".

This ritual is also something practised by the earliest of all Christians.

You can refer the Didache written in AD 70 (Apostolic Times) which says Assemble on the Lord’s day, and break bread and offer the Eucharist....Anyone who has a difference with his fellow is not to take part with you until he has been reconciled, so as to avoid any profanation of your sacrifice ...For this is the offering of which the Lord has said, ‘Everywhere and always bring me a sacrifice that is undefiled, for I am a great king, says the Lord, and my name is the wonder of nations’ by the Eucharistic celebration we already unite ourselves with the heavenly liturgy and anticipate eternal life, when God will be all in all 1 Cor 15:28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

It is called: Eucharist, because it is an action of thanksgiving to God. the Greek words eucharistein (Luke 22:19 19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me. --> 1 Cor 11:24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me)

and eulogein (Mt 26:26 26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.” --> Mk 14:22 22 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take it; this is my body) recall the Jewish blessings that proclaim - especially during a meal - God's works: creation, redemption, and sanctification.

9 The Lord's Supper, because of its connection with the supper which the Lord took with his disciples on the eve of his Passion and because it anticipates the wedding feast of the Lamb in the heavenly Jerusalem (1 Cor 11:20 20 So then, when you come together, it is not the Lord’s Supper you eat, --> Rev 19:9 9 Then the angel said to me, “Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!” And he added, “These are the true words of God.”

The Breaking of Bread, because Jesus used this rite, part of a Jewish meat when as master of the table he blessed and distributed the bread (Mt 14:19 19 And he directed the people to sit down on the grass. Taking the five loaves and the two fish and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves. Then he gave them to the disciples, and the disciples gave them to the people. --> Mt 15:36 36 Then he took the seven loaves and the fish, and when he had given thanks, he broke them and gave them to the disciples, and they in turn to the people.)

It is by this action that his disciples will recognize him after his Resurrection (Lk 24:13-35 When he was at the table with them, he took bread, gave thanks, broke it and began to give it to them. 31 Then their eyes were opened and they recognized him, and he disappeared from their sight.)

and it is this expression that the first Christians will use to designate their Eucharistic assemblies (Acts 2:42 42 They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. --> Acts 2:46 46 Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts --> Acts 20:7 7 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight. --> Acts 20:11 Then he went upstairs again and broke bread and ate. After talking until daylight, he left.

by doing so they signified that all who eat the one broken bread, Christ, enter into communion with him and form but one body in him (1 Cor 10:16-17 16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? 17 Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all share the one loaf. This is called The Holy Sacrifice because it makes present the one sacrifice of Christ the Savior and includes the Church's offering. the terms holy sacrifice of the Mass, "sacrifice of praise," spiritual sacrifice, pure and holy sacrifice are also used (as this is the self-same ONE-time Sacrifice of Christ)

Heb 13:15; ⇒ Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise—the fruit of lips that openly profess his name.
1 Pet 25; ⇒ but the word of the Lord endures forever And this is the word that was preached to you
Ps 116:13, ⇒ I will lift up the cup of salvation and call on the name of the LORD.
Ps 116:17; ⇒ I will sacrifice a thank offering to you and call on the name of the LORD.
Mal 1:11 My name will be great among the nations, from where the sun rises to where it sets. In every place incense and pure offerings will be brought to me, because my name will be great among the nations,” says the LORD Almighty.
From the beginning the Church has been faithful to the Lord's command. of the Church of Jerusalem it is written:
They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers.... Day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they partook of food with glad and generous heart

Acts 2:42-46

further from the catechism

The liturgy of the Eucharist unfolds according to a fundamental structure which has been preserved throughout the centuries down to our own day. It displays two great parts that form a fundamental unity:

the gathering, the liturgy of the Word, with readings, homily and general intercessions;
the liturgy of the Eucharist, with the presentation of the bread and wine, the consecratory thanksgiving, and communion

The liturgy of the Word and liturgy of the Eucharist together form "one single act of worship".

The Eucharistic table set for us is the table both of the Word of God and of the Body of the Lord.

Is this not the same movement as the Paschal meal of the risen Jesus with his disciples? Walking with them he explained the Scriptures to them; sitting with them at table "he took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to them. Lk 24:13-35

On the Road to Emmaus
¹³ Now that same day two of them were going to a village called Emmaus, about seven miles^[a] from Jerusalem. ¹⁴ They were talking with each other about everything that had happened. ¹⁵ As they talked and discussed these things with each other, Jesus himself came up and walked along with them; ¹⁶ but they were kept from recognizing him.
¹⁷ He asked them, “What are you discussing together as you walk along?”
   They stood still, their faces downcast. ¹⁸ One of them, named Cleopas, asked him, “Are you the only one visiting Jerusalem who does not know the things that have happened there in these days?”
   ¹⁹ “What things?” he asked.
   “About Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “He was a prophet, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people. ²⁰ The chief priests and our rulers handed him over to be sentenced to death, and they crucified him; ²¹ but we had hoped that he was the one who was going to redeem Israel. And what is more, it is the third day since all this took place. ²² In addition, some of our women amazed us. They went to the tomb early this morning ²³ but didn’t find his body. They came and told us that they had seen a vision of angels, who said he was alive. ²⁴ Then some of our companions went to the tomb and found it just as the women had said, but they did not see Jesus.”
²⁵ He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken! ²⁶ Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?” ²⁷ And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.
²⁸ As they approached the village to which they were going, Jesus continued on as if he were going farther. ²⁹ But they urged him strongly, “Stay with us, for it is nearly evening; the day is almost over.” So he went in to stay with them.
³⁰ When he was at the table with them, he took bread, gave thanks, broke it and began to give it to them. ³¹ Then their eyes were opened and they recognized him, and he disappeared from their sight. ³² They asked each other, “Were not our hearts burning within us while he talked with us on the road and opened the Scriptures to us?”
³³ They got up and returned at once to Jerusalem. There they found the Eleven and those with them, assembled together ³⁴ and saying, “It is true! The Lord has risen and has appeared to Simon.” ³⁵ Then the two told what had happened on the way, and how Jesus was recognized by them when he broke the bread.

No I did not miss it. You did and I am not surprised at the anti Catholic inability to make the distinctionn between using a text from Hinduism to lead into how the desire in that text is expressed in Jesus Christ and the blasphemy that happened when Hindu worship was allowed during a mass.

The Pope did not validate the Hindu faith. He did not pray to a Hindu god. He did not say “Hinduism” save.

The outright contortions and deliberate failure to read the whole truth about the meditation is typical of the anti Catholic mutton heads on FR.

You people should be ashamed to always, and I mean always twist what ever the Pope does and turn into an anti Christian act. How dare you. How dare you.

I just know you (collective you) have never, ever bothered reading anything the Pope actually said or wrote making it very clear that Jesus alone is Savior or that Jesus is God in the Flesh.

I am done with the lies of your ilk and I hope you are driven to your knees in shame on the last day.

You make Jesus cry with sorrow for breaking the commandment on false witness.

And finally -- do stop repeating the lie about re-c.

The sacrifice of Mass is the same ONE-TIME sacrifice of Calvary that is of all time.