Posted on 01/14/2011 5:57:52 PM PST by topcat54
Evangelical book catalogs promote books such as Planet Earth: The Final Chapter, The Great Escape, and the Left Behind series. Bumper stickers warn us that the vehicles occupants may disappear at any moment. It is clear that there is a preoccupation with the idea of a secret rapture. Perhaps this has become more pronounced recently due to the expectation of a new millennium and the fears regarding potential Y2K problems. Perhaps psychologically people are especially receptive to the idea of an imminent, secret rapture at the present time. Additionally, many Christians are not aware that any other position relative to the second coming of Jesus Christ exists. Even in Reformed circles there are numerous people reading these books. Many of these people are unaware that this viewpoint conflicts with Scripture and Reformed Theology.
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Another case of metmom calling a fellow FReeper a liar. This is finessing, just like her case above.
Catholics badgering you for your church affiliation is stealth as those asking for Obamas birth certificate! ;)
Ok, boatbums, here’s another one to show you what reason inquisition tactics are — by a non-Christian to boot.
I didn’t call you a liar. It was more of a statement that I don’t believe statistics handed out to me because they can be manipulated to mean anything. Statistics are meaningless.
I recommended a book that is very instructive regarding the reliability of statistics so that you don’t think that they really mean anything.
I do see how you could have interpreted it that way, but that was not the intent. If the post gets pulled, it gets pulled.
You should read the book anyway so you don’t get mislead by statistics again.
What about it?
That is heavy stuff, tc. I never read Christ meeting Abraham in that way. It does seem to make sense right now, but I would value reading cinciella counter-statement.
RM — again, a case of finessing the rules. The poster in question sends an email to another freeper’s post saying “How to Lie with Statistics “. That’s a direct personal attack.
And, if you note, these unwarranted personal attacks by metmom came after I got fed up of attempting to have a conversation and moved on to a sane conv with caww and tc and quix. Met’s posts disrupt conversation on threads
“Is your church obeying God’s word? That would be a first, and probably make news! Tell us what church, so we can all go there and see!”
Now, now. You remember that we can’t ask for personal information.
After all, in a country of 350,000,000+ people, 30,00 incorporated town and cities, 19,429 municipal governments, and over 450,000 churches - - -
having them answer their discrete beliefs will pinpoint the location of their comfy chair in their den.
*and the authority for their beliefs.
And, if you note, these unwarranted personal attacks by metmom came after I got fed up of attempting to have a conversation and moved on to a sane conv with caww and tc and quix. Met’s posts disrupt conversation on threads
The point you are trying to make is not relevant to why the church is not using the authority they claim to rid the church of these Priests...now.
Further, statistics are not revelant...it’s the fact the church is not acting with the authority God has given them to move strongly against these Priests and to protect children.
The laity needs to be united and standing against this in full view of the worlds audiance...there are few....the Priest...again few...they are all protecting the church and this on the very backs of children who are still in danger from these Priests.
Personally, as horrific as their sins are . . .
all our hearts are deceitfully wicked ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE.
None of us better be wishing damnation on anyone who’s potentially repentant because none of us can afford to reap damnation for our own sins of whatever degree or type.
Demonized politicians and other leaders who VERY OVERTLY AND EMPHATICALLY ARE UNREPENTANT AND WHO LEAD FOLLOWERS DOWN THE YELLOW BRICK PATH TO HELL DESERVE WHATEVER CONDEMNATION THEY EARN PUBLICLY AND OTHERWISE.
However, even there, we would do well to leave open some possibility of REPENTANCE in most cases.
Otherwise, we are insulting the Blood of Christ. HIS BLOOD IS SUFFICIENT.
I’m not speaking of the unpardonable sin of blaspheming against Holy Spirit. However, everything else short of that is potentially repentable. And, personally, I wouldn’t want anyone to suffer eternity apart from God, in hell. I just wouldn’t. All mortals begin created in God’s image. I’d rather see them all repent and be redeemed.
One would think so, and there may be some disagreement among various factions within dispensationalism as to who witnesses what, but generally the idea is that Christ is only visible to the Church at the rapture. The rest of the world witnesses nothing, except that the person standing next to them suddenly vanishes. Like a magic trick. At least this is the way it is often depicted in the pop dispie literature.
Now, if you read 1 Thess. 4 more critically, youll see this is a rather noisy event. By way of trumpets and shouts, Christ is announcing His coming to the world. If the pre-trib rapture were true, and this is it, then those Left Behind® will witness a tremendous event that could trigger massive conversions.
So the event is kept secret in that sense. In neo-classic dispensational thought, the second coming is the noisy event, while the rapture is more low key.
more frivolously -- why does the anti-Christ have to be Romanian? I gotta tell my Romanian friends about this, they're already tickled pink by the stories made about their national hero Vlad Țepeș
That is nowhere in the Bible. It pure speculation on the part of the Left Behind crowd.
Nonsense.
Sounds like someone is looking for an excuse to scream “Liar!”
With skin that thin, an RC’s organs would be falling out.
I didn’t send anyone any email.
Why are you accusing me of that?
I encourage you to give it a rest.
We all understand you may well have less affection for metmom than TopCat54 has for me.
I encourage you to give it a rest.
We all understand you may well have less affection for metmom than TopCat54 has for me.
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