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To: Cronos

The point you are trying to make is not relevant to why the church is not using the authority they claim to rid the church of these Priests...now.

Further, statistics are not revelant...it’s the fact the church is not acting with the authority God has given them to move strongly against these Priests and to protect children.

The laity needs to be united and standing against this in full view of the worlds audiance...there are few....the Priest...again few...they are all protecting the church and this on the very backs of children who are still in danger from these Priests.


1,314 posted on 01/20/2011 7:13:25 AM PST by caww
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To: caww
1. The Church has been ridding the priests
2. Do note the % numbers I talk about -- 0.5% or less. you cannot blame 99.5% of priests for the actions of 0.5%
3. The statistics are relevant in terms of pointing out the numbers
4. The Church IS moving with authority against these priests -- if you check the time when these accusations took place it was in the 60s-70s at the time when many were told by psychological "experts" that these were "curable" by a month's stay in rehab. There are no allegations even, from the 80s or later
5. Statistics in comparison are highly relevant -- as I asked, check the conviction rate among other non-Christian pastors -- even check in your own group and you'll see the Catholic % of pastors with such allegations is lower and with convictions are lower still. A lot of this is media manipulation and direct attacks --> 250 bad men out of 47,000 priests and religious.
6. The laity IS united and standing against this -- drop in any Catholic Church worldwide but does the MSM want to report this? No. They're happy bashing Catholics or hitting us Christians who believe in Creationism. The Media attack the Catholics first as the visible Church, next....
7. No one is protecting. I ask you again, how many Catholic priests do you know personally? How much do you know of this from people within the Church as opposed to the media's manipulations? You've seen how they project Palin, you can see how they project the Church (does any media outlet mention the 0.53% rate? no)
1,323 posted on 01/20/2011 7:25:37 AM PST by Cronos (Bobby Jindal 2012)
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To: caww; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; count-your-change; ...
You are absolutely right that statistics are not relevant. They are too easily manipulated.

Here's a link to a great book that will show you how that works for next time someone tries to throw statistics at you to *prove* something, so you don't get sucked in to believing that they mean something.

I had to read it for one of my college science courses when were were discussing the compiling and reporting of results. It's a bit dry and outdated as far as the examples he uses, but short and worthwhile.

How to Lie with Statistics by Darrell Huff

1,327 posted on 01/20/2011 7:30:29 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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