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Mormon and Christian
Grig

Posted on 01/08/2011 6:43:59 PM PST by Grig

400 years ago Catholics looked on Protestantism as a cult of Christianity that lead people to hell, and looked on Protestants as not really being Christians. Clearly they've changed their minds a bit over the years on that.

In time, the same thing will happen with respect to Mormons IMHO. In fact it largely has already. While there are still some who speak of Mormons the same way that Catholics spoke of Protestants centuries ago, society in general recognizes The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints as a Christian group.

For example:

Beliefnet.com lists Latter-Day Saints as a part of Christianity: http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/Latter-Day-Saints/index.aspx

Wikipedia: "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (abbreviated as the LDS Church, and colloquially referred to as the Mormon Church) is a restorationist Christian religion" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints

Likewise the definition of 'Christian' at dictionary.com doesn't require adherence to orthodox dogma. Nor am I aware of any reputable dictionary or encyclopedia that says otherwise.

Here on FR when you go to post to the Religion forum you have the option of checking off what denomination(s) the post applies to. In there it lists the category of "Other Christian" as being specifically for "7th Day Adventist, Churches of God, Messianic Christians, Unitarian, LDS, etc."

This of course is separate from the question of what set of teachings is actually correct. Christ taught that not all who lay claim to his name will have a legitimate claim, and in the end He will be the judge. That's fine with me.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; History; Other Christian
KEYWORDS: choosethecross; ctr; inman; lds; mormon; mormonism; vanity
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
The problem such people don’t get is the OT contained types and shadows, but when Jesus came the types and shadows were done away with, since those types and shadows pointed to Him!

So; Jesus has ascended into Heaven, with a RESURRECTED body, and yet, here on Earth, little bitty pieces of His body and little bitty sips of His blood pop up EVERYwhere.

Sorry, but I DON'T believe it.

And believeing one way or the other ain't gonna make a hill of beans to my salvation: right?

201 posted on 01/10/2011 3:06:31 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
I've had about wenough of your smarmy condescension. Show us how brilliant you are, tell us how the name Lucifer got into the lexicon of Biblical teaching. Smith used that name with his faux scriptures, and he got it from the KJV of the Bible. But where did the King James teranslators get it?

Your effort to insult me isn't exactly a defense of the traditions of men which have weaseled their way into Catholic and Protestant teaching. You want to argue. I will now ignore your spittle.

202 posted on 01/10/2011 3:10:44 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
I've had about enough of your smarmy condescension. Show us how brilliant you are, tell us how the name Lucifer got into the lexicon of Biblical teaching. Smith used that name with his faux scriptures, and he got it from the KJV of the Bible. But where did the King James translators get it?

Your effort to insult me isn't exactly a defense of the traditions of men which have weedled their way into Catholic and Protestant teaching. You want to argue. I will now ignore your spittle.

203 posted on 01/10/2011 3:11:46 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Elsie

Hopefully, you believe Jesus is God. You don’t believe it, because Faith is a gift, pray about it and i am sure the Holy Spirit will lead you, just as Christians have been led from the time of the Apostles to the present. Reject this great apostasy doctrine. As to your Salvation, read John 6. The Church is the Body of Christ on earth, is there more than One Christ, if no, there is only One Body of Christ.


204 posted on 01/10/2011 3:12:50 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: MHGinTN

thanks for the Christian love.


205 posted on 01/10/2011 3:15:34 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Elsie

This n00b comes across more like a stealth Mormon trying to create an argument and thus confusion, than a Catholic Christian. Be cautious with this ‘one’ n00b.


206 posted on 01/10/2011 3:19:43 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; Elsie

Now you’re beginning to sounding like a mormon missionary. “Pray about it.”, “...great apostasy...”, “There’s only one [true] church.”.

Btw, since you’re a N00b, mindreading is against FR RF rules —”You don’t believe it,...”


207 posted on 01/10/2011 3:21:12 PM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

I notice you can’t answer the question, but you can play smarmy mormonesque games. I think maybe you’ve outed yourself, ‘one’.


208 posted on 01/10/2011 3:21:24 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: SZonian

elsie said “sorry i don’t BELIEVE it” maybe if you read the post i am responding to, you won’t accuse me of mind reading!


209 posted on 01/10/2011 3:25:23 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: MHGinTN

i admit, you got me! what’s the answer to your question and what does it matter?


210 posted on 01/10/2011 3:28:08 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: SZonian

mormon missionary? LOL!


211 posted on 01/10/2011 3:29:07 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; Elsie
Oh I read it alright...

"Hopefully, you believe Jesus is God. You don’t believe it, because Faith is a gift..."

The inference I've drawn from your comment is quite clear to me.

But I'll defer to elsie.

212 posted on 01/10/2011 3:34:25 PM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: SZonian

Be careful with this ‘one’ n00b. It may be posting on FR with another name(s). The cagey smarm has a certain familiarity to it.


213 posted on 01/10/2011 3:36:14 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

As an ex-mo, I don’t see the humor.

They’re well used terms in mormon missionary “work”.


214 posted on 01/10/2011 3:38:26 PM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: SZonian

read my posts and you will see how off base you are!


215 posted on 01/10/2011 3:40:44 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: SZonian

“Can’t ya feel the love man?”


216 posted on 01/10/2011 4:13:36 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: SZonian; Elsie; Dr. Eckleburg; Colofornian; Godzilla; greyfoxx39; Tennessee Nana; Zuriel; ...
It might be useful to check out the following post from 'one': 'the test; faking the extremes'

This poster is not what it presents itself to be. I think we may have a 'pretend Catholic' seeking to create dissonance on Mormonism threads. I could be wrong now ... but I don't think so.

217 posted on 01/10/2011 4:23:39 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks for reposting my tests. Mormons would flunk big time, since their false religion was started in the 19th century and they reject the Nicene Creed to boot!


218 posted on 01/10/2011 5:08:10 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Whatever you say Doctor. (BTW, I’m one too.) Compare the faithlessness of the former Lutherans of East Germany with the faith-filled Catholics of Poland. The Lutherans of Germany lost their faith in the face of trials, the opposite happened in Poland. I stand with my German Pope and his statements. Catholicism flourished under the persecutions of the Nazis and then the communists, protestantism failed under 1/2 of the pressure.

By their fruits you shall know them.


219 posted on 01/10/2011 5:09:57 PM PST by Gapplega
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To: Gapplega
You offered, "By their fruits you shall know them."

Um, do you really want to use that phrase, lifted from the Bible, when the phrase was directed at false teachers, not fellow Christians? Catholics and Protestants have in common that they are faithing in The Lord Jesus Christ revealed in the Bible as Savior. Mormons, not so much.

220 posted on 01/10/2011 5:18:11 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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