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Earth: Rock of Ages or Young Planet?
Inspire Tomorrow ^ | Dec. 15, 2010 | Rosemarie Thompson

Posted on 12/15/2010 5:17:34 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican

“For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day.” (Exodus 20:11a KJV)

According to evolutionary scientists, the earth is over 4 billion years old; but Biblical chronology dates the age of the earth at about 6,000 years. In an attempt to reconcile the two extreme positions, many creation scientists have used 2 Peter 3:8 to state that the six days mentioned in the Genesis account were not literal 24-hour days. However, if we used the “a day is as a thousand years” formula, we would have the six days of creation plus the day of rest equaling 7,000 years, at most. Hardly a good reconciliation with 4 billion years. So, how old is the earth?...

Fifth article in a series about Creation by Rosemarie Thompson.

Comments welcome!

(Excerpt) Read more at inspiretomorrow.wordpress.com ...


TOPICS: Activism; General Discusssion; History; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: creation; evolution; gagdadbob; god; onecosmos; religion
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

I don’t understand why either “side” of this discussion feels compelled to disprove the other side. If some folks want to believe the earth is 6000 years old, who cares? If some folks choose to believe in “old earth,” who cares?


221 posted on 12/15/2010 10:15:58 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Matchett-PI

Wait. You’re RCC aren’t you? That would explain so much about why we’re butting heads, you don’t hold to Sola Scriptura.


222 posted on 12/15/2010 10:17:58 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: editor-surveyor
The rich man’s salvation was the question, and if the rich man is the rope, he must be broken down to pass the needle.

Yes, but was the 'point' of the story that a RICH MAN could NOT get into heaven, or HOW he gets into heaven? Did the story speak of how he must divest himself of riches, or is that an 'implication' based on the story?

Does it really matter what the needle was, if the 'concept' is understood ?

223 posted on 12/15/2010 10:18:30 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed postpThey're playing an apples-and-oranges game.)
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To: numberonepal
Here is an excellent translation of tablet One. As you know, the tablets are not complete since they were discovered in the ancient ruins of Ninevah, last capital city of the last Great Assyrian king, Ashurbanipal, defeated in 615BC.
224 posted on 12/15/2010 10:21:26 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: GSWarrior
I don’t understand why either “side” of this discussion feels compelled to disprove the other side.

Because both sides think the other is a complete idiot, and they thoroughly enjoy arguing about it.
225 posted on 12/15/2010 10:23:34 AM PST by ZX12R (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!)
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To: paladin1_dcs
"Wait. You’re RCC aren’t you? That would explain so much..."

Most definitely not. I don't agree with their soteriology. But then you would already know that had you clicked my screen name.

226 posted on 12/15/2010 10:30:50 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: Matchett-PI
I have read your post to a link to an article by some expert at some college that tries to explain away the text ...

but I suppose I already knew what would return upon asking for some hard exegetical data from the text of the Bible.

... but I will stand by just in case you find something.

227 posted on 12/15/2010 10:32:44 AM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
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To: ZX12R

lol ... might be the only thing spoken of on this thread that has absolute certainty of being correct.


228 posted on 12/15/2010 10:34:59 AM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
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To: dartuser
"..but I will stand by just in case you find something."

You have everything all figured out and tied up with a neat bow. You know you're not interested in unwrapping it, and so do I. :)

229 posted on 12/15/2010 10:36:09 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: numberonepal
The planets were represented as gods. It was easier to spin the tale. To this day the planets are mentioned as gods.

No. They were stations for the great Gods. Tiamut was the slain enemy of Marduk. NO WAY would Marduk set at station for Tiamut after slaying her.

230 posted on 12/15/2010 10:38:39 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: geologist

I agree with what you say for the most part, but considering the impact of death before sin on other parts of Theology means that I’m not comfortable with a gap theory there just yet.

I agree that God is Righteous, Just, Holy and Sovereign, follows His own rules and can do the impossible, but at the same time He won’t do something that would cause chaos or confusion among His followers. God is not a God of confusion after all.


231 posted on 12/15/2010 10:39:32 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: Matchett-PI
I'm totally serious ... I'm looking for you to argue from the Scriptures that your belief in physical death prior to the Fall is demonstrable.
232 posted on 12/15/2010 10:41:23 AM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
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To: Ghotier
For the Bible to be literally true

So when Christ says, "This IS my Body" you accept the bread as his flesh?

233 posted on 12/15/2010 10:48:06 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: SeeSac
Marduk changed the story for the Age of the Ram to justify his position as ruler of Earth. He believed his father, Enki, was robbed of his position by Enlil. Enki was the first born son of Anu, but Enlil was the foremost son - a son born of his half sister. Marduk, being associated with the Ram, believed this age to be his. After several exiles and a "resurrection" Marduk claimed the Earth as his. He changed the original story from the Sumerians to suit his needs. In Babylonia the Epic (Marduk's version) was recited in full during the New Years celebrations.
234 posted on 12/15/2010 10:51:26 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Matchett-PI

So you’re reformed Calvinist, got it. Thought you were RCC due to your insistance upon mankind’s understanding trumping God’s word.

If you’re reformed, then what’s your beef with Fundamentalists who hold to the Scriptures as being inerrant? Don’t give me that “biblically illiterate” crap either, that’s an elitist cop-out considering that most Fundamentalists study the Bible more than the average Christian.


235 posted on 12/15/2010 10:52:12 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: Matchett-PI
So? It doesn’t negate the accuracy of what he wrote.

I just thought it was interesting, and a bit intellectually inconsistent, for you to try to use that line - written by a YEC - against a YEC for interpreting the Scripture the exact same way Holding does on this point.

Further, I'd be careful about relying on JP Holding for guidance as to what is a "biblically illiterate/fundie intepretation of the Bible." I've noticed over the years that Holding himself is a bit inconsistent when it comes to biblical interpretation, and that his idea of "biblically illiterate" tends more to do with whether somebody's interpretation disagrees with his personal interpretation, rather than whether it is internally consistent with the text and context of Scripture. In other words, Holding isn't exactly someone I consider credible when weighing somebody else's biblical understandings.

236 posted on 12/15/2010 10:56:18 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (is a Jim DeMint Republican. You might say he's a funDeMintalist conservative.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

He’s a literaure expert.

So are these guys:

Bruce Malina and Richard Rohrbaugh are members of The Context Group
http://www.amazon.com/Social-Science-Commentary-Synoptic-Gospels-Malina/dp/0800634918

The Context Group:
http://www.contextgroup.org/


237 posted on 12/15/2010 11:09:38 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: paladin1_dcs
"..Scriptures as being inerrant."

The Scriptures are inerrant in the original autographs. The problem comes in with the "interpretation of Scripture."

Inerrancy and Human Ignorance

238 posted on 12/15/2010 11:16:19 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: MHGinTN

It gets pretty perverted:

But when he turned his attention to his animals,
the gazelles saw Enkidu and darted off,
the wild animals distanced themselves from his body.


239 posted on 12/15/2010 11:21:32 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Matchett-PI

Then basically, the Bible is the Word of God as interpreted by the many authors and editors of the Bible.

From your link:

The basic answer to these charges, which I have recently pointed out elsewhere, is that if anyone is to blame for the loss of clarity, etc. in the Bible over the ages, it is we who are to shoulder the blame for losing it. We can look at a few examples of how this is so, but first there is a certain practical consideration arguing against the very possibility of modern, inerrant copies; we will get to that in the next section.


240 posted on 12/15/2010 11:25:13 AM PST by SeeSac
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