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Earth: Rock of Ages or Young Planet?
Inspire Tomorrow ^ | Dec. 15, 2010 | Rosemarie Thompson

Posted on 12/15/2010 5:17:34 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican

“For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day.” (Exodus 20:11a KJV)

According to evolutionary scientists, the earth is over 4 billion years old; but Biblical chronology dates the age of the earth at about 6,000 years. In an attempt to reconcile the two extreme positions, many creation scientists have used 2 Peter 3:8 to state that the six days mentioned in the Genesis account were not literal 24-hour days. However, if we used the “a day is as a thousand years” formula, we would have the six days of creation plus the day of rest equaling 7,000 years, at most. Hardly a good reconciliation with 4 billion years. So, how old is the earth?...

Fifth article in a series about Creation by Rosemarie Thompson.

Comments welcome!

(Excerpt) Read more at inspiretomorrow.wordpress.com ...


TOPICS: Activism; General Discusssion; History; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: creation; evolution; gagdadbob; god; onecosmos; religion
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To: paladin1_dcs
"Claiming that death preceeded sin is heresy."

More accurately: Claiming that physical death preceeded sin is biblically illiterate /fundie heresy.

Sorry to break it to you.

181 posted on 12/15/2010 9:21:25 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: gop4lyf
“What would be the population of the Earth after a million years if none of the people died?”

To answer yours, two. They didn’t procreate until they were removed from the Garden.

Got it ... Adam and Eve were commanded to be fruitful and multiply ... and Eve didn't get pregnant in a million years?

"Houston we have a problem ..."

182 posted on 12/15/2010 9:24:20 AM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
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To: jaydubya2
Isn’t the “needle” the entrance to an area that was made intentionally small so people could pass but a camel could not enter?

DING DING DING.

Correct answer.

However, I was trying to get the 'Bible experts' to answer the question. I often find that 'experts' don't know as much as they 'think' they do.

And I should know. I think I know more than I do.

183 posted on 12/15/2010 9:24:34 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed postpThey're playing an apples-and-oranges game.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

So? It doesn’t negate the accuracy of what he wrote.


184 posted on 12/15/2010 9:24:56 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: paladin1_dcs

>> Sin didn’t enter the creation until Adam fell, so before the Fall there could be no death.<<

From Gen 1:2 the Bible is talking about the world from that point on. Sin didn’t enter the reconstruction of the earth until Adam fell. The only thing we can really know about the pre Adamic world is what science tells us.


185 posted on 12/15/2010 9:27:58 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: UCANSEE2

Schroeder is an Astrophysicist. Try reading his entire essay at the link. Being a contrarian has limits ...


186 posted on 12/15/2010 9:28:57 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: SeeSac

Sorry, I have better things to do today than swat flies.


187 posted on 12/15/2010 9:30:15 AM PST by Hootowl
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To: tacticalogic

> “Or any answer other than one they don’t want.”

.
On FR, that applies to every post!


188 posted on 12/15/2010 9:32:46 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: paladin1_dcs; jaydubya2
Not sure what to make of this, if anything though.

I was trying to see if your knowledge of the Bible extended to some of the more obscure references.

Whether one thinks the 'needle' was a gate designed to keep the camels from eating all the family food, or a regular sewing needle, the CONCEPT remains the same.

189 posted on 12/15/2010 9:32:59 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed postpThey're playing an apples-and-oranges game.)
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To: editor-surveyor
On FR, that applies to every post!

All generizations can be proven false (including this one).

190 posted on 12/15/2010 9:34:04 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Matchett-PI

No, I’ve shown you, via Scriptural support, that physical death was what was unleashed at the Fall. You’re the one who holds to a flawed, man-centric theory. Your continued reference to those who hold a fundamentalist view of the Bible as “biblically illiterate” proves your own Biblical Illiteracy.

1 John 4:20 proves who, and what, you are.

“If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?”

Your ridicule of those who believe God and take His word at it’s word are telling of your own situation.


191 posted on 12/15/2010 9:34:08 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: editor-surveyor; gop4lyf; ImProudToBeAnAmerican
“How long were Adam and Eve in the Garden?” .

I have better question. Where were they buried?

192 posted on 12/15/2010 9:35:16 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed postpThey're playing an apples-and-oranges game.)
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To: Vegasrugrat
Sanford explained that Charles Darwin knew virtually nothing about genetics. As a consequence he could articulate a scientific hypothesis that at that time might have seemed reasonable but that today should be recognized as impossible.

He's not a real scientist, he doesn't understand how science works, he doesn't comprehend evolution ... /sarc

193 posted on 12/15/2010 9:36:27 AM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
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To: Godzilla
The Science of God is an interesting read. I have that one on my desk now. I don't have all of his books, but I have more than one ...
194 posted on 12/15/2010 9:36:50 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: UCANSEE2
What I see it boil down to on this type of thread (and things like the missile threads) is that it is not WHAT is RIGHT, but WHO is RIGHT.

For some. For myself, the truth doesn't care who you are.

195 posted on 12/15/2010 9:38:21 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: SeeSac

Indeed I have - translations at least. The Sumerian version was copied by the Babylonians. In fact this tale fits quite well with the accounts in Genesis.


196 posted on 12/15/2010 9:38:29 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: eastforker
Now, about that other woman adam had, what was her name, you know, the one that was not subservient to him?

You mean Lilith?

both of them walking around naked and told not to partake of it.

They weren't told they couldn't have sex. They were told only to have sex when God wanted them to (in season, so to speak). This was so that birth would be in harmony with the seasons, and the Universe.

Adam and Eve listened to the serpent (the lust) in themselves and decided different. That is why God told Eve that women would have pain in childbirth from then on. That is the 'punishment' for procreating at will, and no longer 'listening' to God.

At least, that's what I read.

197 posted on 12/15/2010 9:40:34 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed postpThey're playing an apples-and-oranges game.)
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To: SeeSac

Perhaps you can read and translate Sumerian cuneiform. If so, I have some passages from The Epic I need some help with.


198 posted on 12/15/2010 9:40:43 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: UCANSEE2

I can’t say I agree or disagree on this one, I’ve not studied it very much as my focus is usually on other areas of the Bible.

It might be kind of surprising considering how vocal I’ve been here, but the creation isn’t my strong point. I’ve studied it quite a bit, but not nearly as much as some other areas of the Bible.


199 posted on 12/15/2010 9:40:43 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: UCANSEE2

>> However, I was trying to get the ‘Bible experts’ to answer the question.<<

If you believe that small gate interpretation could you please find any proof that there was ever any such gate called the “eye of the needle”? No one else seems to have found any proof, I was hoping maybe you had.


200 posted on 12/15/2010 9:41:14 AM PST by CynicalBear
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