Posted on 10/26/2010 5:17:20 AM PDT by Colofornian
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...Joseph Smith warned of the consequences when we fail to use the temples available to us: Those Saints who neglect [temple work] in behalf of their deceased relatives, do it at the peril of their own salvation.
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A key function of temples is to perform ordinance work for our deceased ancestors. When we think of temple ordinances and the necessity to do them perfectly, without error...
For their salvation is necessary and essential to our salvation...they without us cannot be made perfectneither can we without our dead be made perfect (D&C 128:5, 15;...).
Consider the...vision of President Joseph F. Smith...:
Thus was the gospel preached to those who had died in their sins...having rejected the prophets.
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The Lord revealed through... Joseph: All covenants, contracts, bonds, obligations, oaths, vows, performances, connections, associations, or expectations, that are not made and entered into and sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, of him who is anointed, both as well for time and for all eternity, through the medium of mine anointed, whom I have appointed on the earth to hold this power are of no efficacy, virtue, or force in and after the resurrection from the dead; for all contracts that are not made unto this end have an end when men are dead (D&C 132:7).
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...One of the great privileges we have is the wearing of the garment...
...The garment, when properly worn, will serve as a protection against temptation and evil.
It is expected that members will wear the garment both night and day...Members should not adjust the garment or wear it contrary to instructions in order to accommodate different styles of clothing...The garment should not be removed for activities which might reasonably be done with the garment worn beneath the clothing...
(Excerpt) Read more at new.lds.org ...
So PD...is this statement blasphemy or not? Yes or no...will do.
Read 1 Nephi 14. You will find your answer there...
(Sincerely brought to you by a member of the FLYING INMEN, who did RESEARCH in one of PD's links; LDS.ORG; just so YOU would not have to waste YOUR time doing it.)
Look it up, Sandy. It's in YOUR scripture; too.
John 3:16-18
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
One MUST be PARSING challenged to be a MORMON 'apologist'!
MORMON
ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY
1. Im Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you dont!
2. Im Superior; I have Gods true priesthood power -- you dont! 3. Im Superior; I can go in Gods secret Temple -- you cant! 4. Im Superior; Ive been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- youre just normal! 5. Im Superior; Ill have my family with me in heaven -- youll be with strangers! 6. Im Superior; Im becoming a God -- you arent! 7. Im Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours dont. 8. Im Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures). 9. Im Superior; I dont HAVE a creed - Ive got 13 Articles of Faith. 10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly. 11. Im Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. -- You cant. 12. Im Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics -- -- Youre a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't. 14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't 15. Im Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself. 16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't. 17. Im Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you dont. 18. Im Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you dont ;so you cant. 19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't. 20. Im Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably -- Youre on your own; when you get to wherever youre going! 21. Im Superior; Im going to hie to Kolob -- youre going to who knows where. 22. Im Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you dont. 23. Im Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple -- all you have is a stupid cross.
24. Im Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty. 25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!) 26. I'm superior; I have the "higher law" -- everyone else "lives under the "lesser law' because I say so...(over and over). Revision 46.2
Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.
All rights liable to be abused.
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And you continue to wonder why real Christians....strike out at LDS, Inc. Your pompous superiority is well known to me...I get that from most mormon's.
Hey PD.....how many BILLIONS does LDS, Inc. have?
And what on earth are they doing with it?
No wonder you don't identify with historical Chritianity, Saundra! You can't even define the Trinity without misconstruing it!
What you have stated before has been deemed by historical Christianity as the heresy of modalism. It's been long condemned by the Christian Church.
We don't teach that Jesus is the Heavenly Father or that Jesus is the Holy Ghost. You are (again) misrepresenting Christian interpretation of the Bible.
Surely, you've seen a three-leafed clover, Saundra. One leaf is not the next leaf. But they are 3-in-1.
You have portrayed what we believe as God acting in one mode (heaven), and then another mode (as God's son) and then another mode (Holy Ghost). Fess up, Saundra, that you have rejected Christianity based upon a faulty understanding of what we believe.
When a mother carries a baby, they are temporarily 2-in-1. The mother is not the baby. The baby is not the mother. It's not a great full analogy (as analogies break down when describing God) in that they are not the same "substance" or nature -- like the Father and Jesus is.
A husband and wife are 2-in-1. The wife is not the husband; and the husband not the wife. But they are mathematically defined by Jesus as "one" (Matt. 19:6). So a couple is more "one" than God is?
What? Saundra, you just can't imagine a Father who is so intimate with His Son that they can't be defined by Himself as "one"???
Probably the most profound thing you've ever said...........But I'm curious...you said "usually"....are there mormon's that think they aren't Christian?
Sorta weird...but I find myself agreeing with Benson here...............
Osage Orange: "And you continue to wonder why real Christians....strike out at LDS, Inc. Your pompous superiority is well known to me...I get that from most mormon's."
Whine from the mormon-owned Deseret News
The misconceptions persist. It's been this way from the beginning. No matter how hard Mormons try, no matter how many votes Romney gets, no matter how many TD passes Young throws, no matter how many hospitals Jon Huntsman Sr. builds, no matter how many Mormons are trotted onto the national stage to be prodded and poked and studied, they're still misunderstood.
And no matter HOW many times mormons claim to be superior to those Christians (whose name they are trying to co-opt)....they are VERY WELL UNDERSTOOD on FR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndChcyOAEcs
What? Are you kidding me?
God bless your little heart......
Join the club :-)
So Jesus Christ and Heavenly Father and the Holy Ghost are One God. Therefore, let me say it again, then by that reasoning the Jews are all “saved” because Jesus Christ (the Savior of the World) is the same as Heavenly Father of the Old Testament on which the Jews believe. The Jews also have the Holy Ghost because they believe in and accept the God of the Old Testament (Jesus Christ and/or Heavenly Father and/or the Holy Ghost).
Or did your Jesus become God the Father after He was crucified in which case He is NOT the same yesterday, today, and forever.
I’m glad that I am not confused. I believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost - one in purpose possessing different roles and functions which compliment each other. The Trinity is a man-made concept and please don’t say it’s a mystery, like the egg having a shell, the white and a yolk.
And I hate being accused of racism by someone who believes being born black was a punishment for crimes committed in the “pre-existance”.
Answer my question, PD.
Is this blasphemy? Yes or no.
The anti Mormons are always pounding away about the Trinity and how Mormons are going to hell because we believe in the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
Since the Trinity says that Jesus Christ is the same devine being as the Father and the same as the Holy Ghost then the God of the Old Testament (on which the Jews believe) is actually Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world, so therefore, the Jews are automatically saved since they believe in the God of the Old Testament and have invited Him into their hearts.
This is why I actually believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost and was baptized that way.
Whew! This was always confusing to me when I was a Baptist and a Pentecostal. Not confused now.
Actually Sandy...I love you. And want the very best for you.
But I believe you are horribly deceived and lost.
I don't dislike mormon's....I dislike the cult that they belong to.
SD - this 'definition' of the Trinity is so ignorant I don't know where to begin except to state that what you have defined is called modalism - not Trinitarianism. This tells me you didn't learn very much (if anything at all) during your much touted stint as a so-called Christian, if you have such a screwed up view of the definition.
P.S. As a Mormon, I dont appreciate being condemned to hell by mere mortals on this site.
Sorry, any condemnation you may be 'feeling' comes from the Bible and God. How well are you doing at being perfect today SD?
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