So Jesus Christ and Heavenly Father and the Holy Ghost are One God. Therefore, let me say it again, then by that reasoning the Jews are all “saved” because Jesus Christ (the Savior of the World) is the same as Heavenly Father of the Old Testament on which the Jews believe. The Jews also have the Holy Ghost because they believe in and accept the God of the Old Testament (Jesus Christ and/or Heavenly Father and/or the Holy Ghost).
Or did your Jesus become God the Father after He was crucified in which case He is NOT the same yesterday, today, and forever.
I’m glad that I am not confused. I believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost - one in purpose possessing different roles and functions which compliment each other. The Trinity is a man-made concept and please don’t say it’s a mystery, like the egg having a shell, the white and a yolk.
Except you forgot one little thing...how is an all-holy God going to live with Jews forever if they are not trusting for their sin to be covered by the blood of Christ? If they acknowledge not the blood the Christ as having any worth on their behalf, then John 3:17-18 says they are "already condemned."
I believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost - one in purpose possessing different roles and functions which compliment each other.
So, let me get this straight: A unified married couple is also "one in purpose" -- and they, too "possess different roles and functions which compliment" - sic - "each other". Yet, Jesus defines the married couple as one (Matthew 19:6); yet you define God as three? Really?
So the average unified Christian married couple is more "one" than your God? (Does He know that?)
'Cause this married couple is one flesh...one identity (same last name)...often one in worldview & will...etc.
So the creation of God is "more" one and more unified than the Mormon "creator"gods...Imagine that!
Please, Dear One, read what I tried to write explaining this mystery ... it is still a mystery, even to me, but I think the following could help you to see where you're in error:
The One God Evidences Himself in the Work which He is Doing:
The following will be 'a way' to understand the notion of the trinitarian nature of the Deity, not a strictly Biblical explanation, but one which is applicable to the teaching of the Bible. Here goes:
God The Father Almighty is greater than His creation, thus greater than dimension time and dimension space, thus we may think of The Father Almighty as beyond time and space but not prevented from touching and indeed penetrating His creation.
The universe of space and time is likened to a bubble: what is inside the bubble is in time and space. But the nature of what is inside the bubble is only partially understood in modern Physics.
The Bible relates scenes which defy the simplistic notions we use for assumptive science. We'll get to that 'assumptive' notion shortly, but let us make the statement that God The Father Almighty is as comfortable outside the bubble as He is inside the bubble.
Modern Physics has discovered that the balance of forces and tensions sustaining the universe necessary for human life to arise within the universe is extremely delicate, on the order of a mathematical improbability, represented as a 'one in less than' fraction so tiny that a one over a one followed by more than one-hundred zeros defines the probability that the whole thing remains in balance! Such a delicate balancing act is but one of the continuing 'works' of the Holy Spirit of God. It is by the Spirit of God, The Word, that the universe came into existence and it is said in the Bible that by His Spirit the whole is maintained.
But the Bible also states that The Word was with God in the beginning and was God. In John's gospel we find that Jesus is The Word made flesh Who dwelt among us. So, inside the bubble Created by The Father Almighty, sustained by God The Holy Spirit, is the Word, God made flesh Who dwelt among us. The Creator does not stop being greater than His creation bubble, nor does His Spirit cease to sustain it all in balance, when Jesus comes in the flesh to dwell among us.
Here's an address to 'assumptive science limitations': Now, when one reads the Torah/Old Testament, one finds scenes like the fifth chapter of Daniel where a being is in one spacetime 'where/when' reaching into another 'where/when' to write on the palace party central wall of king Belshazzar. Just the forearm/hand is seen in the where/when of Belshazzar and the party folks, the rest of the being remains in 'another' where/when.
God The Father Almighty created this 'other' where/when, His Holy Spirit maintains its balance and separateness from our where/when, and Jesus has moved in and out of this other where/when: as shown when He resurrected from the tomb without rolling away the stone, just passing out of the tomb where/when, into 'another' where/when; then back into our where/when as He spoke to the women come to the sepulchre; and when He appeared in a locked and shuttered room with the disciples present; or appeared suddenly with the disciples walking on a road and broke bread with them then left our where/when to go to the 'other' where/when.
The trinitarian nature of God is shown in the Bible, even in the Torah. Trinity IS the nature of God as we have been given to know. Even in the Old Testament/Torah, we do have instruction on the Three nature of God as Creator, Sustainer, and Deliverer. God Is manifested as three yet one, seen identified by 'the work He is doing'.
With each manifestation, we are given to realize His presence simultaneously as Creator--because we exist in the realm He created, as Sustainer--because the balance is too delicate to stand alone without His sustaining the separation and interdependence, and as God with us in the person of Jesus our Lord and Savior. Just as God is in the world in the person of Jesus The Christ, He is not the world but He is in the world/created universe, and the world/created universe is sustained by His Spirit, and God the Father created ALL that there is or ever shall be because He created time and space and provided the energy and sustains the balance of forces. When The Creator came into space and time, He did so as the person of Jesus Christ. When God came into the created unviverse, His Spirit is not diminished nor is His creative Self as He manifests The Word.
Only the H.G. ain't GOD enough to get His own physical body.
Yup; three GODs that MORMONs worship.
You folks are polytheists.
**The Trinity is a man-made concept**
If you mean the “each is a separate person, each omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, but all three are in unity, making one God”; or something like that? (if one has all three of those attributes, why does he need the other two for help?)
The carnal, earthly understanding of mankind, thinks of the Son of God, Jesus Christ, as something of a ‘chip off the ol block’, imagining a couple of immortal men, one older than the other, hanging out in heaven.
Jesus Christ, body and soul, is God, ONLY because of the Father (Spirit, John 4:23,24) in him.
Mary “was found with child of the Holy Ghost”. Matt. 1:18
The Father didn’t do it himself? I mean, he’s omnipresent, so he was there. He’s omniscient, so he knew how to perform the miracle. He’s omnipotent, so he had power to make it happen. And the Christ continually referred to the Father as his ‘father’. The answer is simple; the Holy Ghost is a portion of the Almighty God, that is given to aid lowly man (no man can hold the infinite God; that should be obvious).
Diety cannot die; the Christ died. “Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father..”. Rom. 6:4
By man-made trinity logic, one can have all three persons in them:
If the Father is omnipresent, and can be in you. Eph. 4:6
The Son is omnipresent, and can be in you. “..Christ in you the hope of glory”. Col. 1:27
The Holy Ghost is omnipresent, and can be in you. “..the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that OBEY him”. Acts 5:32
It is so simple; the Father is Spirit, and the Son is fleshly man with a soul. He chose to create him, dwell in him, and by him, reconcile the world unto himself, giving of his Spirit to lowly man.
**the egg having a shell, the white and a yolk.**
Stupid example. I wonder who dreamed up that concept. There’s at least three important items in the yolk alone, and the yolk is the only part that ends up being a living, breathing, critter.