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What Mormon Missionaries WON'T Tell You
Contender Ministries [False Religions] ^ | unknown | anonymous

Posted on 10/15/2010 5:39:02 PM PDT by delacoert

Most of us have had a Mormon Missionary knock at our door.  If you have ever invited them in and listened to a presentation of their beliefs, you probably found most but not all of what they said very similar to those beliefs held by Christians.  However, while trying to convince you that your Church is wrong and the Mormon Church is right, there are several points they intentionally leave out.  Below is a list of Mormon beliefs the missionaries will be reluctant to tell you about:

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the God they worship was not always God.

"We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity.  I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see."  (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe Jesus Christ is the spirit brother of Satan:

"The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God.  He was called Lucifer, son of the morning.  Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind."  (Milton R. Hunter, Gospel Through the Ages, pg.15)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that, according to Mormonism, Jesus Christ was a polygamist.

"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children."  (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses 2:210)

 

The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age.  A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers.  We might almost think they were 'Mormons'" (Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, 1:346)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that for at least half a century church leaders were teaching that Adam was really God and the only God with whom we have to do.

"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner!  When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him.  He helped to make and organize this world.  He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken--He is our Father, and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do."  (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:50)

 

"I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people and he is the god that pertains to this earth--The first man.  That first man sent his own son to redeem the world..."(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 4:1)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that Brigham Young, who held the office of President of the Mormon church longer than any other man, taught that men must practice polygamy in order to become Gods.

"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy."  (Journal of Discourses 11:269)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the book of Mormon fails to contain any Mormon doctrine

Many portions of this Mormon Scripture even contradicts Mormon theology.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you about their secret temple ceremonies which, until April 1990, portrayed Christian ministers as hirelings of Satan.  Nor will they tell you about the sacred underwear they are wearing which, they believe, actually protects them.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that Mormon leaders have taught that Jesus was conceived by way of a sexual relationship between God and Mary.

"..how are children begotten?  I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father.  The difference between Jesus Christ and other men is this:  Our fathers in the flesh are mortal men, who are subject unto death: but the Father of Jesus Christ in the flesh is the god of Heaven" (Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pg. 125)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe the bible has been corrupted throughout the centuries and cannot be trusted fully by itself.

"I believe the Bible as it read when it came from the pen of the original writers.  Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph smith, pg.327)

"But the Bible has been robbed of its plainness; many sacred books having been lost, others rejected by the Romish Church, and what few we have left, were copied and recopied so many times, that it is admitted that almost every verse has been corrupted and mutilated to that degree that any two of them read alike." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, pg.213)

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants, which they claim to be both sacred and without error, contradict each other many times.

For example, in the Book of Mormon, God called David and Solomon's act of polygamy an abomination, whereas in the Doctrine and Covenants He claims to justify it.  Jacob 2:24 in the Book of Mormon says, "Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord."  Section 132:1 in the Doctrine and Covenants, however, states: "Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines."

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that they use Christian terms with Mormon meanings.

For example, a Mormon would probably agree with you that a person must be born again.  To the Mormon, however, "born again" is a process which begins with water baptism.  Another example are the words "salvation" and exaltation," which are synonymous in the Christian's mind.  However, general salvation to the Mormon merely means the resurrection which everyone in the world will receive at death.  Exaltation, or individual salvation, is the reward earned by the Mormon by following the laws of the Moron church.  "Eternal Life" to the Mormon means Godhood.  Regarding the word "scriptures," the Christian thinks of the Holy Bible while the Mormon could be thinking of not only the Bible but the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price as well.

 

They won't want to tell you that in order to gain entrance into the highest form of Mormon heaven, the Celestial kingdom, you must accept Joseph Smith, Jr. as a prophet of god.  Faith in Jesus alone, Mormonism teaches, will force you to spend eternity in a lower form of heaven.

 

Tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated in his book, doctrines of Salvation, that there is "No salvation without accepting Joseph Smith.  The word "salvation," used in this context, must really mean "exaltation" because former Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie stated in his book Mormon Doctrine that general salvation is given to everyone regardless of belief.  Personal salvation or exaltation to the highest form of Mormon heaven comes only by accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of god and by following the laws of the LDS church.

 

They will be reluctant to tell you that their founder, Joseph Smith, Jr., made many false prophecies which, according to the Bible, would classify him as a false prophet rather than a true prophet of God.

 

For instance, in 1835 Smith claimed that the Lord would again come in just 56 years.  We would gather from this "prophecy" that Jesus Christ would again come to earth on or before 1891; no doubt Joseph Smith was incorrect (History of the church 2:182).  In 1832 Joseph Smith claimed he had a revelation concerning the building of a temple in Independence, Missouri.  According to section 84, verses 4 and 5, of the Doctrine and Covenants, he stated this "temple shall be reared in this generation.  For verily this generation shall not pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it..."  to this day the spot consecrated by Smith fails to be the sight of a great temple, but instead is covered with a well-kept lawn.  In fact, the Mormon church does not even own the land.

 


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KEYWORDS: apostasy; blasphemy; falsereligion; inman; josephsmith; lds; mormonism; unscriptural
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To: Saundra Duffy
Therefore, by your definition Glenn Beck and I are not Christians and are, according to you, members of a cult.

Actually; the BIBLE says that MORMONism was founded by TWO DECEIVING ANGELS OF LIGHT.


 
 
 
Galatians 1:7-10
 7.  Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
 8.  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
 9.  As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
 
 
2 Corinthians 11:14-15
 14.  And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
 15.  It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
 
 Revelation 13:13-15
 13.  And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
 14.  And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
 
 
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”  
 
It appears that EXPERIENCES can be deceiving...
 
 
If one believes the Bible is correct, then, by that Standard, Mormonism fails the test.
 
 
If, however, you are convinced that the Bible is either in error, been corrupted or mis-interpreted, then you are free to believe whatever you wish.
 
 
 
 

941 posted on 10/21/2010 6:48:58 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
After all, if the Mormon church (The church of jesus christ of Latter-day Saints) has the truth, it can stand any amount of investigation.

Well worth repeating Nana!

942 posted on 10/21/2010 6:50:54 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Instead of pretending to BE Christians, why not actually BECOME Christians?)
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To: Saundra Duffy
It seems strange that a cult member could be so effective.

LEt me refer you to a little story about Baalam's ASS!


943 posted on 10/21/2010 6:50:53 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN
Or you might want to consult that story about Balaam’s donkey.

DRAT!

If I'd read ahead a bit, I could have saved me some WORK!

944 posted on 10/21/2010 6:52:23 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

Most of that response is pure spin and parsing.

The JoD provides valuable insight as to what and how the mormon prophets thought and taught. What their state of mind was when they wrote those words and stood in front of their audience.

They can spin around the maypole all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that the mormons listening to their prophets speak are going to take their words as gospel, as revelation irrespective of any “thus sayeth the Lord”.

They have been taught that when their prophets speak, it’s a done deal. So to assert anything different is deliberate deception.

It’s human nature. To deny otherwise is to flat out lie.


945 posted on 10/21/2010 6:55:56 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: MHGinTN

Wow, M, thanks. I was thinking about that parable the other day and puzzling about it. Thanks for the insight. I’m going to reread it today and also look for other fig analogies in Jesus’ words.


946 posted on 10/21/2010 6:58:30 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Instead of pretending to BE Christians, why not actually BECOME Christians?)
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To: Saundra Duffy
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.


2 Kings 17:41
 
Even while these people were worshiping the Lord, they were serving their idols.
To this day their children and grandchildren continue to do as their fathers did.

947 posted on 10/21/2010 6:58:39 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

No telling why it was pulled. The game is the one the LDS play here with the “who me” and such approach to things.


948 posted on 10/21/2010 7:02:38 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Stourme
[HUG][HUG]

Didja feel the GARMENT??

She won't tell whether she is 'worthy' or not...

949 posted on 10/21/2010 7:03:41 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paragon Defender
Thank you for REPEATING what I posted...
950 posted on 10/21/2010 7:05:48 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN; Saundra Duffy
If you ever meet my Jesus

Oh, she will. Everyone will.

951 posted on 10/21/2010 7:08:53 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Instead of pretending to BE Christians, why not actually BECOME Christians?)
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To: Saundra Duffy
There you go again accusing Glenn Beck of being a member of a cult. Really?

LOL! What, is Glenn Beck above reproach? How dare we, is that what you're asking? You crack me up Sandy.

952 posted on 10/21/2010 7:10:32 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Instead of pretending to BE Christians, why not actually BECOME Christians?)
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To: reaganaut

rather we just go to a temporary Hell called ‘spirit prison’ until we progress enough to get to one of the levels of Heaven no matter how bad we are, including Hitler and Charles Manson]
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Actually the mormons dead dunked Hitler into the “celestial kingdom”

So Hitler will be walking around with Joey Smith and Briggie Young (fitting companions)

and Tommy Munson and Gordo Hinckley

and married to worthy beautiful young mormon girls

and having lots of babies..named Hitler..


953 posted on 10/21/2010 7:11:31 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Saundra Duffy

Sandy, every human who ever walked this earth is bound for hell*, whether in a handbasket or not. It is the default destination of everybody. And there is not one single thing we can do to save ourselves. Nobody can be good enough. We just continue to pile death sentence upon death sentence every single day with even the single, “smallest” sin.

There aren’t enough good deeds and repentence in this world to remit even ONE of these death sentences.

It’s that way, not because God wanted it that way, but because we told him we could handle it fine without him.

So we all get judged in the end, but those who trust in JESUS ALONE to take our death sentence (all of them) get to walk free. Those who agree to be judged on their goodness vs their badness are going to find they have made a terrible, eternal mistake.

It’s never too late. Nobody is lost until the moment of death. No sin is too bad because the penalty is the same for every single sin, from the first tiny lie to serial murder and rape. Death.

So there is still time, but how much?

*age of accountibility caveat


954 posted on 10/21/2010 7:26:35 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Instead of pretending to BE Christians, why not actually BECOME Christians?)
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To: Saundra Duffy; MHGinTN
Your Jesus is some kind of tyrant who rejects and condemns.

I think you have it wrong here SD - it is YOUR Jesus who cannot save you in your sins. It is YOUR Jesus who cannot cleanse ALL of your sin. How goes the effort at EARNING your salvation SD?

My salvation is based upon grace given freely by Jesus

You have to EARN your grace from Jesus

Yes, mormons have a different Jesus.

955 posted on 10/21/2010 7:36:57 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I wonder why God is using Glenn Beck as a voice crying in the wilderness

God uses everything for His purposes. He used false Christians to bring me to Jesus.

956 posted on 10/21/2010 7:38:35 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Instead of pretending to BE Christians, why not actually BECOME Christians?)
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To: Saundra Duffy
The anti Mormons here have staked their reputations and lives on it.

My goodness, could you be more dramatic?

957 posted on 10/21/2010 7:40:46 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Instead of pretending to BE Christians, why not actually BECOME Christians?)
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To: reaganaut

You can store up piles and piles of treasures in heaven, but they are useless if you aren’t going there!


958 posted on 10/21/2010 7:46:19 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Instead of pretending to BE Christians, why not actually BECOME Christians?)
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To: reaganaut
Ouch

Didn't hurt me one bit :-)

959 posted on 10/21/2010 7:47:56 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Instead of pretending to BE Christians, why not actually BECOME Christians?)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Good going, ignore what else was said.

What lies being said about lds?

18 months at YWAM extraordinary.

What did I say that was an insult (see below) or are you talking about yourself here when you say: Another insult from a so-called Christian.? “I don’t need to discredit your recollections, as they change on such a regular basis that “

960 posted on 10/21/2010 7:53:40 AM PDT by svcw (Legalism is enforced revelation)
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