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What Mormon Missionaries WON'T Tell You
Contender Ministries [False Religions] ^ | unknown | anonymous

Posted on 10/15/2010 5:39:02 PM PDT by delacoert

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To: Saundra Duffy
Sandy, you call 'liar' but you never seem to have any evidence of same. And I understand that, because what I post is straight out of the quotes from your leadership.

Oh wait! Perhaps you don't believe the stuff and therefore you consider it not from LDS inc? Stuff like:

----god had to gain the attributes of godhood

---jesus was sired by a heavenly father and heavenly mother, so he had a beginning

---jesus then worked his way to the exalted state of one third of the godhead, one third of the troika of three separate gods working as one in purpose

----jesus had a grandfather god and a great grandfather god, etc

----the god of Mormonism was appointed as the god over the earth, and at that occasion was not yet a one-third of a godhead, but two of his offspring--jesus and holy spirit--were either appointed to the exalted positions of each one third of the godhead or earned it via their obedience to Mormon ordinances

----there can be no salvation without Mormon baptism

----someone who rejects the Savior in this life can have salvation later, if a worthy Mormon is baptized for them in a certified Mormon temple

----god couldn't keep the promise Jesus made, so a peepstone lying false prophet predator of married women had to be recruited at age 14 to restore real christianity to the world

----and last bu by no means least important, you can be saved ... after all you can do to prove yourself worthy by keeping the ten commandments so jesus will apply His atonement for your sin.

Sandy, that last one is a real doozy, because it screams Jesus died on the Cross unnecessarily for perhaps you, or the current head of the Mormon religion, because a few really, really good Mormons will be so good that they achieve exaltation and become gods of other planets in other universes. THAT is denying the Gospel of Jesus Christ and it leads to damnation because it is blasphemous, rejecting the Real Savior Who is God with us, and Whom remains with us in His person of the Holy Spirit in the human spirit of those who humble themselves and accept His Grace in Christ Jesus.

601 posted on 10/19/2010 1:33:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: restornu
Oh lets see now, in just one afternoon, you've called me a pig, a dog, a swine, a mocking yammering demon disintegrating into a cesspool, mean, in denial, abusive, void of conscience, a sociopath, lacking in deportment, disappointing, displeasing to God, heart held in opposition, a murmurer (now that smarted), possessing a guilty conscience, evil, dishonest, a twister and maligner of words, cunning, a listener to the devil, pretentious (or pretender, not clear)...

Careful Resty, you might start getting personal. But I'm glad that you stand fast in following Jesus' command to love one another.

602 posted on 10/19/2010 1:36:56 PM PDT by T Minus Four (Instead of pretending to BE Christians, why not actually BECOME Christians?)
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To: Saundra Duffy
The teaching of infinite regression conveys some peculiar sense of layered eternities. But Smith used the term "beginning" as before the world was created, sending this eternities notion into an irrational contradiction of itself when Smith also claimed that the father of the Mormon Jesus was once a man on a planet, before he ‘gained‘ the attributes of godhood! And if a ‘council of gods’ is not Mormonism teaching polytheism, then pigs have wings and should be granted flight paths. And if a Mormon thinks this heresy is not a current teaching of the LDS of Salt Lake City, the following from LDS ‘Prophet’ Hinckley should clear it up:
From the 1994 LDS Conference report:
On the other hand, the whole design of the gospel is to lead us onward and upward to greater achievement, even, eventually, to godhood. This great possibility was enunciated by the Prophet Joseph Smith in the King Follet sermon (see Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 342-62) and emphasized by President Lorenzo Snow. It is this grand and incomparable concept: As God now is, man may become! (See The Teachings of Lorenzo Snow, comp. Clyde J. Williams, Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1984, p. 1)

603 posted on 10/19/2010 1:45:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: restornu; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...
it is time to leave this absive tribe who only pretent...
who think the ten commandments are a farce...
and many reveal how void of conscience they are Sociopaths who think this is Christians behavrior

puke on opinion

604 posted on 10/19/2010 1:46:27 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Godzilla
Repentance is an ongoing thing . . . When I was a Baptist I used to be amazed at the people who kept going to the altar to get saved - in case it didn't take the first time around. That's why we Mormons take the Sacrament (Communion) every Sunday. Catholics do that, too. It's renewing our Covenants. Thank Goodness for the Atoning Sacrifice of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen.
605 posted on 10/19/2010 1:49:24 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: MHGinTN
LC, do you have a copy of the pre-1837 edition of the BofM?

No; I do not.

606 posted on 10/19/2010 1:49:43 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Some antis are evil SOP who love to twist and malign words and their cunningness comes from listening the devil!

Uh...

You typed SOB wrong...

607 posted on 10/19/2010 1:51:32 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39; restornu
it is time to leave this absive tribe who only pretent...

I'm still trying to figure out what the heck she is talking about????

608 posted on 10/19/2010 1:53:13 PM PDT by colorcountry ("The power of facts is much greater than the power of argument.")
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To: restornu
I have witness over the past decade where this has gone from strong disagreement to where those who opposed have now disintegrated into a cesspool of mostly yammering mocking demons!

Would you like to shake my hand?

Just to be SURE??


 
 

Instructions given by Joseph Smith:

          "Doctrine & Covenants" Section 129:
1  There are two kinds of beings in heaven, namely: Angels, who are resurrected personages, having bodies of flesh and bones;
2  For instance, Jesus said: Handle me and see, for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 
3  Secondly: the spirits of just men made perfect, they who are not resurrected, but inherit the same glory. 
When a messenger comes saying he has a message from God, offer him your hand and request him to shake hands with you. 
5  If he be an angel he will do so, and you will feel his hand. 
If he be the spirit of a just man made perfect he will come in his glory; for that is the only way he can appear;
7  Ask him to shake hands with you, but he will not move, because it is contrary to the order of heaven for a just man to deceive; but he will still deliver his message. 
8  If it be the devil as an angel of light, when you ask him to shake hands he will offer you his hand, and you will not feel anything; you may therefore detect him. 
9  These are three grand keys whereby you may know whether any administration is from God.

Joseph Smith, Nauvoo, Illinois, February 9, 1843. History of the Church 5:267. 


609 posted on 10/19/2010 1:54:06 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

What I believe is found in the LDS Articles of Faith but I dare not post them here because the anti Mormons trash, desecrate and trample them underfoot. Nevertheless, that is what we believe. Not what you say you THINK we believe.

P.S. “Jesus is the Lord.” This I believe with my whole heart.

“Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost”

1 Corinthians 12:3


610 posted on 10/19/2010 1:54:40 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: colorcountry
I'm still trying to figure out what the heck she is talking about????

I think she is saying she is gonna leave the abrasive tribe of mormon, 'cause it isn't sociopathic enuff...

611 posted on 10/19/2010 1:56:05 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: MHGinTN
Looks like half the plots found in all the Star Gate series and spinnoffs!
612 posted on 10/19/2010 2:02:49 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (True enlightenment occurs when one discovers just how much like God, one is NOT!)
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To: greyfoxx39

“It’s interesting that these stories are posted with NOTHING to back them up. No sources, no links, no reason to believe them.”

I was with YWAM for about six years - served DTS (Crossroads) in Hong Kong, China, and Okinawa. Then went on staff in Belize (Central America) for 18 month - 6 month of which was in the jungle on the YWAM base across the Belize River from the Village of Roaring Creek. When I was there, you had to take a rope boat to get to the YWAM base until the British Corps of Engineers built a walking bridge. Or you could travel further down the road to take a “ferry” across the river and drive back roads through the jungle to get to the YWAM base.

You don’t believe any of this. Hmmmmmm. Well, too bad. It’s true. I have a photo album. I remember seeing 2 LDS Missionaries when I was in Belmopan and I was amazed that the Mormons were there. Of course, YWAMers distance themselves from Mormons! I was told that Mormons were evil and to not talk to them. Of course, all good YWAMers do as they’re told. “Touch not mine anointed.”

Have you been a Missionary?


613 posted on 10/19/2010 2:06:21 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Have you been a Missionary?

Oh, I was a Molly mormon having babies, then rearing them...no time to be a missionary until I found FReeRepublic...now my mission is to help the world see that Joseph Smith's Book of Fiction is a trap for the unwary.

I don't need to pad my resume with unprovable anecdotes. No one has the slightest interest in little stories when there are SO many provable sourced facts about mormonism.

614 posted on 10/19/2010 2:14:20 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: restornu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdnwLX5m3G8


615 posted on 10/19/2010 2:21:06 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
‘A guilty conscience needs no accuser.

So THAT;s your MO!

616 posted on 10/19/2010 2:22:38 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39
1. heavenly mother Gonhorra [God's #1 wife's name]
617 posted on 10/19/2010 2:25:40 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Don't you anti Mormons ever tire of repeating the same lies about my faith over and over and over?

Well if we were actually doing that, yes it would be tiresome...

Ironically I don't know what energizes me more, serving the Lord by defending His faith again the PROVEN lies and heresies of the Latter Day Saints or the fact that the apologist like yourself love to accuse with out any substance in your accusations and no ability to support same.

618 posted on 10/19/2010 2:26:26 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: T Minus Four
But you call me very harsh names, say I'm evil, that I yammer, that I'm in a cesspool. But you still love me?

Love is a Many Splintered Thing


Sadists and Masocists seem to find each other...

619 posted on 10/19/2010 2:27:24 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: colorcountry
I am attempting to find my lexicon of the Restorian Language now..
620 posted on 10/19/2010 2:28:03 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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