Posted on 10/15/2010 5:39:02 PM PDT by delacoert
Most of us have had a Mormon Missionary knock at our door. If you have ever invited them in and listened to a presentation of their beliefs, you probably found most but not all of what they said very similar to those beliefs held by Christians. However, while trying to convince you that your Church is wrong and the Mormon Church is right, there are several points they intentionally leave out. Below is a list of Mormon beliefs the missionaries will be reluctant to tell you about: |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that the God they worship was not always God. |
"We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe Jesus Christ is the spirit brother of Satan: |
"The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God. He was called Lucifer, son of the morning. Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind." (Milton R. Hunter, Gospel Through the Ages, pg.15) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that, according to Mormonism, Jesus Christ was a polygamist. |
"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children." (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses 2:210) |
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The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age. A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers. We might almost think they were 'Mormons'" (Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, 1:346) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that for at least half a century church leaders were teaching that Adam was really God and the only God with whom we have to do. |
"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken--He is our Father, and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do." (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:50) |
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"I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people and he is the god that pertains to this earth--The first man. That first man sent his own son to redeem the world..."(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 4:1) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that Brigham Young, who held the office of President of the Mormon church longer than any other man, taught that men must practice polygamy in order to become Gods. |
"The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy." (Journal of Discourses 11:269) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that the book of Mormon fails to contain any Mormon doctrine |
Many portions of this Mormon Scripture even contradicts Mormon theology. |
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They will be reluctant to tell you about their secret temple ceremonies which, until April 1990, portrayed Christian ministers as hirelings of Satan. Nor will they tell you about the sacred underwear they are wearing which, they believe, actually protects them. |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that Mormon leaders have taught that Jesus was conceived by way of a sexual relationship between God and Mary. |
"..how are children begotten? I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father. The difference between Jesus Christ and other men is this: Our fathers in the flesh are mortal men, who are subject unto death: but the Father of Jesus Christ in the flesh is the god of Heaven" (Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pg. 125) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe the bible has been corrupted throughout the centuries and cannot be trusted fully by itself. |
"I believe the Bible as it read when it came from the pen of the original writers. Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph smith, pg.327) |
"But the Bible has been robbed of its plainness; many sacred books having been lost, others rejected by the Romish Church, and what few we have left, were copied and recopied so many times, that it is admitted that almost every verse has been corrupted and mutilated to that degree that any two of them read alike." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, pg.213) |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants, which they claim to be both sacred and without error, contradict each other many times. |
For example, in the Book of Mormon, God called David and Solomon's act of polygamy an abomination, whereas in the Doctrine and Covenants He claims to justify it. Jacob 2:24 in the Book of Mormon says, "Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord." Section 132:1 in the Doctrine and Covenants, however, states: "Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines." |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that they use Christian terms with Mormon meanings. |
For example, a Mormon would probably agree with you that a person must be born again. To the Mormon, however, "born again" is a process which begins with water baptism. Another example are the words "salvation" and exaltation," which are synonymous in the Christian's mind. However, general salvation to the Mormon merely means the resurrection which everyone in the world will receive at death. Exaltation, or individual salvation, is the reward earned by the Mormon by following the laws of the Moron church. "Eternal Life" to the Mormon means Godhood. Regarding the word "scriptures," the Christian thinks of the Holy Bible while the Mormon could be thinking of not only the Bible but the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price as well. |
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They won't want to tell you that in order to gain entrance into the highest form of Mormon heaven, the Celestial kingdom, you must accept Joseph Smith, Jr. as a prophet of god. Faith in Jesus alone, Mormonism teaches, will force you to spend eternity in a lower form of heaven. |
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Tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated in his book, doctrines of Salvation, that there is "No salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. The word "salvation," used in this context, must really mean "exaltation" because former Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie stated in his book Mormon Doctrine that general salvation is given to everyone regardless of belief. Personal salvation or exaltation to the highest form of Mormon heaven comes only by accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of god and by following the laws of the LDS church. |
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They will be reluctant to tell you that their founder, Joseph Smith, Jr., made many false prophecies which, according to the Bible, would classify him as a false prophet rather than a true prophet of God. |
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For instance, in 1835 Smith claimed that the Lord would again come in just 56 years. We would gather from this "prophecy" that Jesus Christ would again come to earth on or before 1891; no doubt Joseph Smith was incorrect (History of the church 2:182). In 1832 Joseph Smith claimed he had a revelation concerning the building of a temple in Independence, Missouri. According to section 84, verses 4 and 5, of the Doctrine and Covenants, he stated this "temple shall be reared in this generation. For verily this generation shall not pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it..." to this day the spot consecrated by Smith fails to be the sight of a great temple, but instead is covered with a well-kept lawn. In fact, the Mormon church does not even own the land. |
And they won’t tell you that they always lose their pressed white shirts and black ties at that same darned place those silly gold plates went missing.
Oh please, leave the Mormons alone.
They are harmless, as far as I can tell.
What I’ve seen is they redefine their terms. We know what we mean when we talk about Jesus, they in turn redefine Jesus in their own minds according to what JSjr. wrote about Him .... they worship(???) a different Jesus.
I was downtown at the courthouse a couple months ago.
There were a pair of 'em, on bikes, in ties, in the heat,
talking to folks and passing out info and asking if folks had questions.
I asked them if they had on magic underwear.
They wouldn't tell me.
So???? At least they don’t say convert of die...
No, I'm not being sarcastic.
I find Mormons amusing.
I welcome them at my door but will NOT let them in. It’s easy to get them flustered. SUre they promote the Bible ... LOL and in the next breathe they’ll tell you it’s corropt and the Book of Mormon is not.
Mormomism is not CHRISTIAN no matter how many ads they put on TV to nomralize it to help Mitt run again for President.
How, sthis for ya,
I lover reading books,
swimming and
horse back riding and
I’m NOT A MORMON!!!!!
The pro-Mormon ads make them look sillier than ever.
Yep, teaching a false gospel that leads folks away from the life saving gospel of Jesus is harmless. I see your point.
We don’t behead people if they refuse to join our church. Have a nice day...
Oh please, leave the Mormons alone. They are harmless, as far as I can tell.
I would like to give you a short reading assignment. Seek out and read A. C. Doyle’s Sherlock Holmes A Study in Scarlet.
No Zane Grey bigotry, rather a European view of the Mormon economic/social “miracle” and its just treatment of folks.
A whiz kid like you should zip through the little short story in pico-seconds.
Caddis the most Elder
They wear the under garments IF they’ve been to the Temple. And they can go to the Temple IF they answer all the questions correctly. Such as “Have you used caffeine in the past 6 months?” The answer should be “no”. Unless it’s coke or pepsi, etc. I had a Mormon tell me it’s okay to drink soft drinks because coke didn’t exist when Joseph Smith made that rule. He was only talking about coffee. True story.
Actually, they claim Lucifer is a brother of Jesus. But Lucifer is an erroneous name, a Latin name for morning star, or star of morning. But in Isaiah 14:12 where the name appears first in the King Jmaes Bible, the Latin name is a translational oddity to characterize the king who is the subject of the entire chapter, a king who was not satan and was condemned as a nemesis to the nations around Israel and to Israel. Lucifer was not satan, but LDS have an entire mythos built up around this error Smith conveyed through his supposed scriptures!
TERMINOLOGY DIFFERENCES
By Sandra Tanner
Introduction Whenever an evangelical Christian and a Latter-day Saint engage in a doctrinal discussion they encounter the problem of terminology. LDS leaders use the standard vocabulary of Christianity but with radically different definitions. A Christian should never take for granted that his/her LDS friend understands common Christian terms in the biblical way. Because the Bible has many warnings about false prophets (Matthew 24:11, 24; 2 Corinthians 11:4, 13; 1 John 4:1) and people teaching strange doctrines (2 Peter 2:12; Galatians 1:6-8; Hebrews 13:9), it is essential that we understand what the Bible says on various doctrines. The references below will demonstrate that the LDS Church is indeed teaching a different god and a counterfeit gospel, thus offering a false hope. The following list of Christian terms will be defined by LDS sources and then by biblical quotes. While this is not a complete list of terminology differences, it will cover the most basic ones. For a more detailed look at terminology differences, see The Counterfeit Gospel of Mormonism. |
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No, Mormons just condemn their followers to a slow death and an eternity in hell because of false doctrine. I see your point as well. And may you have a nice day too.
Ping to #3
May I ask if you are a Christian?
Because theologically and for Christians, Mormons are not ‘harmless’ at all. I would know (see tagline).
The LDS mythos build around the Lucifer of Smith's false teaching is much more than a minor error. Yes, it is error also taught in the Catholic Church and Protestant traditions, but Smith went so far as to claim spirit direction in using this error! Heres the key to why Mormon use of Lucifer is so damning to the false prophet, Joseph Smith:
Mormons claim that an ancient record (the Book of Mormon) was written beginning in about 600 BC, and the author in 600 BC supposedly copied Isaiah in Isaiah's original words. When Joseph Smith pretended to translate the supposed 'ancient record', he included the Lucifer verse in the Book of Mormon. Obviously he wasn't copying what Isaiah actually wrote. He was copying the King James Version of the Bible. Another book of LDS scripture, the Doctrine & Covenants, furthers this problem in 76:26 when it affirms the false Christian doctrine that "Lucifer" means Satan. This incorrect doctrine also spread into a third set of Mormon scriptures, the Pearl of Great Price, which describes a war in heaven based, in part, on Joseph Smith's incorrect interpretation of the word "Lucifer" which only appears in Isaiah.
From Mormon wiki, the following assertion is made: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has unique doctrine concerning Satan, which is the restored true doctrine of the original (Christian) Church. [Keep that assertion in mind as the following error riddled Mormon teaching unfolds]
"The Doctrine and Covenants clarifies this doctrine in a record of the vision of heaven of Prophet Joseph Smith:
And this we saw also, and bear record, that an angel of God who was in authority in the presence of God, who rebelled against the Only Begotten Son whom the Father loved and who was in the bosom of the Father, was thrust down from the presence of God and the Son,
And was called Perdition, for the heavens wept over himhe was Lucifer, a son of the morning. And we beheld, and lo, he is fallen! is fallen, even a son of the morning!
And while we were yet in the Spirit, the Lord commanded us that we should write the vision; for we beheld Satan, that old serpent, even the devil, who rebelled against God, and sought to take the kingdom of our God and his Christ
Wherefore, he maketh war with the saints of God, and encompasseth them round about (Doctrine and Covenants 76:2529).
Smith is fraudulently claiming that he was in the spirit when he was given this error naming Lucifer, as Smith portrays the named one using the error from the early King James mistaken assignment of the name Lucifer to satan!
Mormon missionaries would DEFINITELY be wearing Garments (Holy Underwear).
The LDS get them the first time they go through a specific ceremony in the Temple (and the most important one for the living) called the Endowment (which is coupled with ‘washing and anointing). It is REQUIRED for Mormon missionaries to ‘take out their Endowments’ prior to starting their mission.
Going on a mission is when most men go to the temple for the first time and go through this ceremony.
So, yes, the did have their holy underwear on.
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