Posted on 08/31/2010 6:42:35 PM PDT by Gamecock
I really like Glenn Beck. Though I have never met him in person, I have often watched his television programs and thought it would be so nice to have that kind of a guy as a friend. I imagine that he is far too busy and way too inaccessible for that to become a reality, but I do genuinely like the man. He is insightful, articulate, funny, and seems to want some great things for his family and our nation. I do think that sometimes he has one or two conspiracy theories that may not be fully justified - we shall see - but all in all, Glenn seems to be a really nice guy.
I share many of the same goals as Glenn. I speak as one born in England but now very much a U.S. citizen. All my children were born here in these United States and I live and pray for America to become in all reality, "one nation under God." I love America. I sincerely believe Glenn does too.
But I do have a problem - not a problem with him as a person in any way at all, but when he asks me to join him in praying for the very same things I wish for my country, I just cannot. I can pray for these things privately, and with fellow Christians, of course, and I do. I just cannot stand with Glenn in a public setting and be comfortable while I know he is praying to a false god. How could I ever say "Amen" at the end of his prayer that people would turn back to the god he serves? I just cannot do it. That is because Glenn Beck is a Mormon. The "god" he prays to is not in any way the same God as mine.
I know.. I know.. even saying this is politically and religiously incorrect, but I cannot help but say it. When Glenn Beck speaks of "god" we need to remember that he uses a different dictionary to Christians. The God of the Bible is One in essence and eternally exists in three co-equal Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Mormons reject this completely, believing that there are many worlds controlled by different gods and the god of this planet was once a man. The Jesus of Mormonism is the begotten offspring of this exalted man in sexual union with one of his many wives, and this god lives on a planet circling a star named Kolob, and his "gospel" is the message of how you, too, can be exalted to godhood. Christianity is Monotheistic. Mormonism is the most polytheistic religion in the world. Doctrine matters folks and deceived people, deceive people!
A dear fellow Christian, in coming to understand where I am on this issue wrote to me today saying, "I like Glenn Beck and appreciate his effort to bring America back to her godly roots. He is doing a great job in uniting government, church, and media. He does speak from a Mormon perspective but still has a heart of seeing America return to God even though he might not have the same theological view as we do."
I responded by saying, " I understand you - but I cannot agree that Mormonism is in any way "godly." According to the Bible, there is nothing at all godly about false religion. Godliness is not just about acts of service, honor, integrity, courage and the like, as wonderful as these things are, but it also includes worship of the One true God and the avoidance of all forms of idolatry. Mormonism is idolatrous worship and when Glenn Beck prays, despite his intentions, he prays to a false god who cannot help either Mr. Beck or America."
I can remember reading about the worshippers of the golden calf. They had high family values and were absolutely sincere in their worship. Now I may not be the sharpest tool in the drawer, but I do tend to get the distinct impression that God didn't like the worship - yeah, the ground opening up and swallowing the worshippers.. hmmm... it does lead me to believe that God was somehow ticked, wouldn't you say?
And then I wonder what God would feel about a "prophet" in the Old Testament asking Baal to bring Israel back to its godly roots. I think in such times, he would be stoned. In Deuteronomy 18:20 God says to His people, "But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die."
God often tested His people by seeing if they would be true to Him even as false prophets tried to lure them away from Himself. God says, "If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst" (Deuteronomy 13:1-5).
Thank God for grace!!! (we don't stone false prophets now) but I believe God's feelings about false worship have not changed. As Glenn Beck calls this nation to pray for some very valuable, important and even vital things, I ask now, is God testing us in the same way today? Perhaps God has raised Glenn Beck up for this very purpose, to test our hearts. Just a thought!
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord, the one and only God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the eternal One, Yahweh, the great I AM, the Alpha and Omega, who is from everlasting to everlasting.
So, though I really like you Glenn, thanks for the invite, but I cannot join you.
Not until the “Last Day”...
Are you going to tell us how Mormons are good Christians, and that you are a believing Catholic?
Show me a piece of yours and I'll believe your God exists.
I have an answer for you.
As JOHN ADAMS said in the film “1776:”
“OH, GOOD GOD!”
Now I remember why I stopped going to “””Christian””” Churches...
O.k. you lose....Jesus came to earth to save humanity....you can turn it down if you wish, but I’d stock up on sun tan lotion if I were you, going to ba very hot unless you accept Christ
From a Polish Catholic, like the late, great Pope John Paul II, who lives in the township next to Kirtland, Ohio.
GET OVER IT!
“Lets try to keep focused on the immediate problem here...”
Agreed.
I’ve been having fun with my tagline, and trying to change it before it gets too stale.
So let me go for a little change again.
Well at least you admit you are a bigot.
Get Over yourself you brainless twit. I Refuse to deal with bigoted idiots like you..
Didn't Glenn say essentially that in his speech on Saturday?
Nope, neither did Beck. They both asked you to pray to YOUR God.
Everyone has a right to an opinion, but not all opinions can be honorably held.
For a pastor to pronounce that anyone who doesn’t attend his particular church is doomed to damnation is about as bigoted as a human can get.
I suppose that if people happen to live on a moon of Jupiter they are beyond hope because the don’t have a copy of your prayer book?
I think Kipling was closer to the mark when he said, “There are nine and sixty ways of constructing tribal lays - and every single one of them is right.”
When you send up your presumedly sincere prayers, do you suppose the deity is going to send them back with the notation, “You spelled my name wrong! So Go To HELL! ???”
I like to think HE is better than that.
Not interested, thank you.
Bingo!!
Your post brought this to mind. Check out 1 Kings 18 start at verse 20.
I pray that Beck wont take the time to defend himself. Let God vindicate him. This will definately sharpen up what he believes. We must remember we don’t wrestle with flesh and blood but against principalities and spiritual wickedness in high places. Even now there are times we entertain devils unaware, just as we entertain angels, until they show themselves.
He sure did.
Why is it so difficult for people to understand something so simple?
Why can’t we come together on what we agree on and work together?
In Beck's religion, he will become a God they all do, didn't you read the article?
"Mormons reject this completely, believing that there are many worlds controlled by different gods and the god of this planet was once a man. The Jesus of Mormonism is the begotten offspring of this exalted man in sexual union with one of his many wives, and this god lives on a planet circling a star named Kolob, and his "gospel" is the message of how you, too, can be exalted to godhood. Christianity is Monotheistic. Mormonism is the most polytheistic religion in the world. Doctrine matters folks and deceived people, deceive people!"
Oh, pish. Glenn Beck isn’t considered any Christian’s ‘minister’. That’s really over-reacting.
Hey “Lady” sell crazy somewhere else. Why on earth would I, a Christian, bother to sow prayers with someone praying to another god? Do you really believe that when Jesus said, “that where two or three gather in My name, there I am also.” That He was talking about unbelievers too?? Seriously, I think this Pastor was making a theological argument and you are on very shaky ground.
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