[annalex]

I do not participate in threads this long unless directly pinged, however, it says "person" and not "presence" in the original:

2 Corinthians
	English: Douay-Rheims	Latin: Vulgata Clementina	Greek NT: Byzantine/Majority Text (2000)
	2 Corinthians 2
10.	And to whom you have pardoned any thing, I also. For, what I have pardoned, if I have pardoned any thing, for your sakes have I done it in the person of Christ.	Cui autem aliquid donastis, et ego : nam et ego quod donavi, si quid donavi, propter vos in persona Christi,	ω δε τι χαριζεσθε και εγω και γαρ εγω ει τι κεχαρισμαι ω κεχαρισμαι δι υμας εν προσωπω χριστου

New International Version is a tool of anti-Christ.

Of course, the fact that the priest dispatches his sacred duties in the person of Christ is clear from the direct teaching on the matter in John 13:20, John 20:21, Luke 10:16.

You guys have to wait for the dictatorship to come about to figure this one out. Our ammunition is dry.

[wagglebee]

It's worth noting that the KJV (which, I've always sort of liked) also uses person and not presence in this verse.

[count-your-change]

Consider yourself pinged, and ponged too.

“I do not participate in threads this long unless directly pinged, however, it says “person” and not “presence” in the original::

No one has the “original” but what appears in the Greek is a Greek word, “prosopo”, which translates to “person”. The meaning, MEANING, of which is within the persons sight or literally, “face”, “in person”.

Hence in translating the use of the word “presence” carries the idea behind the Greek “prosopo” as previously stated.

From Strong's:

“from proV - pros 4314 and ops (the visage, from 3700); the front (as being towards view), i.e. the countenance, aspect, appearance, surface; by implication, presence, person:—(outward) appearance, X before, countenance, face, fashion, (men's) person, presence.”

Therefore “prosopo” is properly and more accurately translated, “presence” at 2 Cor. 2:10.

[Mad Dawg]

It's like the KJV translation of Col 1:24. While the plain meaning of the Greek is obvious, there is a theological objection to it, so they take a less likely but barely possible interpretation and insist that's what it "really" means.

As Humpty Dumpty said, it's a matter of who will be master. They will follow the Bible alone -- as long as they get to make it say what they want it to say.

I didn't enter this argument because of its circular nature -- and the general uselessness of the whole enterprise.

[OLD REGGIE]

New International Version is a tool of anti-Christ.

Do you also believe all modern Catholic Bibles are the tool of the Anti-Christ?

[OLD REGGIE]

New International Version is a tool of anti-Christ.

Do you also believe all modern Catholic Bibles are the tool of the Anti-Christ?