That's what I've been saying has happened since the Reformation. Are you suspiciously on our side all of a sudden?
Mark ALL of Scripture is written by prophets.. notice Christ called those that fail to se Christ in the OT (like the ark of the covenant)..FOOLS
No it is not!!!!
The Torah was written by God. None of Matthew, Mark, or Luke were prophets. James was not a prophet. Where are you getting this stuff? Christ was referring to the Jews. The Greeks didn't care about the OT - they only cared about what Paul was selling them.
RN mom=So the apostles taught jesus from the Old Testament
Mark=Pardon?
Mark have you ever read the Nt for yourself? If you have and not seen the Old Testament there Christ has said that one is a FOOL
You said that the Apostles taught Jesus from the Old Testament. The Apostles didn't teach Jesus anything. Jesus taught them.
RN=But to say there was no New Testament would not be accurate.. the epistles were circulated among the churches to teach doctrine to those that had been saved
Which epistles? When were they written? When were they circulated? How many copies were made, and when? There was no Internet email. No printing press.
Awww my friend.. those letters were the New churches inspired doctrinal teaching of CHRIST
In biblical days they were not without a sort of mail service.. a letter to one church would be taken from one church to another .. They were circulated by the will and design of God
This is the biggest cop out that I have ever seen on this forum. "The will and design of God". Okay, prove it. Prove it scripturally or by another other means. I should hold you to Scripture since that is a common yet not exclusive theme with the Reformed (who will retreat quite imaginatively when confronted with the paucity of proofs for their beliefs). So okay. Prove it. Scripturally if you can. Prove it non Scripturally if you cannot prove it Scripturally. Or else don't bring it up again.
To anyone who knows anything of the Roman Empire in that nasty little snakepit of Palestine 2100 years ago, where they had to publically execute 10,000 Jews in order to stop the uprising against the Empire, to say that there was a mail service in effect (never mind that you don't even address the problems with enough lettered people with the time to copy out letters, never mind again, deciding which letters ought to be copied out, never mind yet again, deciding what should be written down and how much the authors would decide to change the words), this is so much horse hockey. Pull the rose coloured glasses off your eyes and look once again at the Passion of the Christ and tell me what the likelihood of a Pony Express or Wells Fargo was set up to copy and deliver all the letters of Christendom to their intended destinations.
Irrelevant to the question at hand... Paul was the God ordained catechist of the New Testament church ...
It is not irrelevant. It is entirely germane. Paul did not begin his epistles until at least 20 years after the death, Resurrection and Ascension of Christ. Catechism was the province of the Church - if you think that your ragged band of OPC drunkards has the power of Catechism beginning 80 years ago, by what authority do they do so? You cannot point to Calvin since your beliefs wander in many ways off the Calvin track. So what then?
I do not take scripture lessons from agnostics or atheists or pagan or the lost..
You also are not taking history lessons from historians (not me, but all those authorities readily available to those who will listen) or theology lessons from theologians who trace their authority and their instructions from Christ and the Apostles. No doubt you will take your driving lessons from your barmaid, and your tax accounting instructions from your mailman.
Mark the definition of a prophet is one that speaks for God ..all scripture is Gods word given through men..they were therefore prophets writing as inspired by the Holy Spirit..
2Ti 3:16 — All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God,......."
2Pe 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
You said that the Apostles taught Jesus from the Old Testament. The Apostles didn't teach Jesus anything. Jesus taught them.
Did i leave out a comma? The intent of that sentence was that the apostles taught OF Jesus from the OT, and from the the epistles ..that were scripture.. therefore it was incorrect to say they taught without scripture..sorry if that was not clear..
In biblical days they were not without a sort of mail service.. a letter to one church would be taken from one church to another .. They were circulated by the will and design of God
This is the biggest cop out that I have ever seen on this forum. "The will and design of God". Okay, prove it. Prove it scripturally or by another other means.
Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Mark did you ever hear the saying all roads lead to Rome?
History of western civilization
This is a historical fact..google a bit.. Christianity was more easily spread because of the Rome roads..If God had sent Christ 100 years earlier, the church could not have spread as fast and far.. Those roads allowed the church letters to pass from church to church to keep the doctrine pure and consistent
God chose the time of Christ's birth, the circumstances, His life and ministry, His betrayal, His crucification , paul as the church catechist , and the means and method of communication.. This is the church of Christ, not a church of happenstance
. Paul did not begin his epistles until at least 20 years after the death, Resurrection and Ascension of Christ. Catechism was the province of the Church -
And Paul was an apostle of Jesus Christ...It was Paul that God used to teach doctrine..even in Rome Mark.. peters letters were even later. Those letters were written when GOD inspired them..so they were written when God believed they were necessary to the church .
I have to LOL at the constant cry that I am somehow teaching Calvin.. no Mark.. I am not a catholic beholden to an imaginary pope.. I have used only scripture , except for the historic link on the roads of Rome you wanted..and if anyone REALLY cared about TRUTH it can be googled by anyone.. "the spread of Christianity and the Roman roads.. "