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To: MarkBsnr
,Mark ALL of Scripture is written by prophets.. notice Christ called those that fail to se Christ in the OT (like the ark of the covenant)..FOOLS
No it is not!!!!

Mark the definition of a prophet is one that speaks for God ..all scripture is Gods word given through men..they were therefore prophets writing as inspired by the Holy Spirit..

2Ti 3:16 — All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God,......."
2Pe 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

You said that the Apostles taught Jesus from the Old Testament. The Apostles didn't teach Jesus anything. Jesus taught them.

Did i leave out a comma? The intent of that sentence was that the apostles taught OF Jesus from the OT, and from the the epistles ..that were scripture.. therefore it was incorrect to say they taught without scripture..sorry if that was not clear..

In biblical days they were not without a sort of mail service.. a letter to one church would be taken from one church to another .. They were circulated by the will and design of God
This is the biggest cop out that I have ever seen on this forum. "The will and design of God". Okay, prove it. Prove it scripturally or by another other means.

Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Mark did you ever hear the saying all roads lead to Rome?

History of western civilization

This is a historical fact..google a bit.. Christianity was more easily spread because of the Rome roads..If God had sent Christ 100 years earlier, the church could not have spread as fast and far.. Those roads allowed the church letters to pass from church to church to keep the doctrine pure and consistent

God chose the time of Christ's birth, the circumstances, His life and ministry, His betrayal, His crucification , paul as the church catechist , and the means and method of communication.. This is the church of Christ, not a church of happenstance

. Paul did not begin his epistles until at least 20 years after the death, Resurrection and Ascension of Christ. Catechism was the province of the Church -

And Paul was an apostle of Jesus Christ...It was Paul that God used to teach doctrine..even in Rome Mark.. peters letters were even later. Those letters were written when GOD inspired them..so they were written when God believed they were necessary to the church .

I have to LOL at the constant cry that I am somehow teaching Calvin.. no Mark.. I am not a catholic beholden to an imaginary pope.. I have used only scripture , except for the historic link on the roads of Rome you wanted..and if anyone REALLY cared about TRUTH it can be googled by anyone.. "the spread of Christianity and the Roman roads.. "

11,913 posted on 10/16/2010 6:04:36 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Some call me harpy..God calls me His)
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To: RnMomof7
Mark the definition of a prophet is one that speaks for God ..all scripture is Gods word given through men..they were therefore prophets writing as inspired by the Holy Spirit..

Matthew, Mark, Luke and James were Prophets? Negative. Show where they are identified as such in Scripture. Luke says that he gathered the information that was available. Not information whispered from God. Your definition is spurious and non Scriptural. Your definitions, unless you have something else, fail from the sola perspective, and therefore from the Reformed perspective.

Did i leave out a comma? The intent of that sentence was that the apostles taught OF Jesus from the OT, and from the the epistles ..that were scripture.. therefore it was incorrect to say they taught without scripture..sorry if that was not clear..

Only to the Jews. The Gentiles didn't care about the OT. They only cared about the message of Christ. Show me Scriptural proof of Apostolic teaching to the Gentiles of Scripture - and no, the Ethiopian eunuch was not pagan - he would have been Jewish.

In biblical days they were not without a sort of mail service.. a letter to one church would be taken from one church to another .. They were circulated by the will and design of God

This is the biggest cop out that I have ever seen on this forum. "The will and design of God". Okay, prove it. Prove it scripturally or by another other means.

Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

Mark did you ever hear the saying all roads lead to Rome?

In other words, you have no proof, either Scripturally or not Scripturally. You cannot prove the tracking of the copying and the distribution of any letter, Gospel or any other Christian letter whatsoever. Your sola scriptura beliefs fail yet again. You guys keep bleating about the holiness of sola yet you violate it repeatedly on even the most cursory examination. Your source on the History of western civilization does not elaborate on the spread of the letters. I am not going to do the homework for you that you would ask of me. You claim sola. It fails. You ask me to google. You fail. Do your proofs or stop claiming what you claim. I contend that your view is completely wrong and have supplied the reasons based upon the civilization and the attitude towards the area of Palestine at the time of Roman occupation. 10,000 Jewish rebels hanging on crosses do not a crisp postal delivery service from that area make.

And Paul was an apostle of Jesus Christ...It was Paul that God used to teach doctrine..even in Rome Mark.. peters letters were even later. Those letters were written when GOD inspired them..so they were written when God believed they were necessary to the church .

Later? How much time do you think that they had? Peter died before Paul, ca. 65 or so. Paul did not start writing until ca. 50 and Peter? Some sources place 2 Peter as late as 150 AD. You have not told us the magical mechanism whereby these letters were transmitted and copied en masse and then transmitted again. Do you have clue one as to the time frame required? Obviously not.

I have to LOL at the constant cry that I am somehow teaching Calvin.. no Mark.. I am not a catholic beholden to an imaginary pope.. I have used only scripture , except for the historic link on the roads of Rome you wanted..and if anyone REALLY cared about TRUTH it can be googled by anyone.. "the spread of Christianity and the Roman roads.. "

You bleat about sola scriptura and have nothing. You have nothing about the actual timeline of the spread of the letters - including the numbers, the copies, the contents of the copies and who got them and when. You have nothing and yet believe sola. Guess what? You guys have a whole less to go on than the Church that you left.

11,916 posted on 10/16/2010 6:25:54 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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