Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Such as John Gill's?
The who crucified Christ and why?
Because the virgin birth is a tenet of faith
The fact is no one does know correct? There was no one in the bedroom of Mary and Joseph . The Catholic church has made up various stories to explain why Joseph may have been fine with that ..but there is no infallible record of their sex life.. no one does know..but it does not matter.. it has not one thing to do with our salvation
I know .... it is Christ+ Mary+tradition+saints+.........and so on
INDEED.
Though given the culture . . . I think there’d be evidence lingering if Joseph was denied his BIBLICAL rights.
Are christmas songs where you all get your theology? That explains alot
As to the “mind of the (Catholic) Church”, what might that be? The teachings of the Catholic Church? The Pope seldom if ever makes his (ahem..) “infallible” statements, the actions of some perverted bishop?, Vatican II that is bitterly criticized? The Democrat or Republican or socialist priest? “...mind of the Church” indeed!!
Why, God smote Christ with His wrath, of course. Why? Likely he was angry with Himself.
You do see where this leads by now, yes?
That bears repeating
This is just ridiculous.
From Dictionary.com:
bless·ed /ˈblɛsɪd; especially for 3, 7 blɛst/ Show Spelled [bles-id; especially for 3, 7 blest] Show IPA adjective 1. consecrated; sacred; holy; sanctified: the Blessed Sacrament. 2. worthy of adoration, reverence, or worship: the Blessed trinity. 3. divinely or supremely favored; fortunate: to be blessed with a strong, healthy body; blessed with an ability to find friends. 4. blissfully happy or contented. 5. Roman Catholic Church . beatified. 6. bringing happiness and thankfulness: the blessed assurance of a steady income. 7. Informal . damned: I'm blessed if I know. 8. Informal . (used as an intensifier): every blessed cent
Have you never heard of the Essenes? The Nazoreans?
Did you really read this? This is telling us that Marys greatest joy was not the virgin birth or nursing the son of God.. but to be regenerated by God, to become a sister to Christ through adoption as are all those that are saved..
You just keep proving you do not understand the reformed doctrines..
It is a bad translation. It is possible to translate prosopos as “presence” in some contexts, but as applied to Christ it is pure nonsense, as He is present everywhere. The meaning of the passage is that St. Paul acts on the authority of Christ.
My bad. Not again.
I noticed your new tagline.
Did you hear about the breakfast joint that served Eggs Benedict in a hubcap? They said, “There’s no plates like chrome for the hollandaise. :o)
Wag that is accepting that doctrine by faith alone ..Sola fide ..but not faith in Christ, but faith in Rome
Sola Ecclesia Romanus
I am not tethered by the 16th century man-made invention of sola scriptura.
No, Catholics accept what man says is true with no infallible support
There is absolutely no proof or even a suggestion anywhere in known inspired writing that Mary was born free of sin, that she never sinned, that she was assumed into heaven, there is no evidence that she can hear or answer prayer or that she is the "queen of heaven"
This is all nothing more than speculation made doctrine.. All sola scriptura says is that it is the FINAL authority because we know that is the inspired word of God
Marys spiritual condition is of no import ....not one at all or God would have seen to it that we would have assurance on it.. We are saved by Christ not his mama
Actually after I was saved I would no longer be deceived..I left the Roman church
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
It is possible to translate “prosopos” as “presence” (an example of that is 2 Cor 10:1) and of course the direct meaning is “face”, nearly always synonymous with “person”. But in the case of 2 Cor 2:10 “presence” makes no sense because St. Paul makes a reference to his authority stemming from the authority of Christ. What he is saying is that he absolves the penitent in agreement with the decision of the local church and on authority of Christ. As St. John Chrysostom explain, he absolves him not in order to please the local priests but because that is the right thing to do, in Christ.
I don’t ordinarily participate in threads this long. There was a textual question and I made a textual comment.
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