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To: wagglebee; 1000 silverlings; metmom; boatbums; Quix; Gamecock; count-your-change; Alex Murphy; ...
Secondly, WHY do you think Calvin refers to her a the Virgin Mary if he does not believe she remained one?

Because the virgin birth is a tenet of faith

The fact is no one does know correct? There was no one in the bedroom of Mary and Joseph . The Catholic church has made up various stories to explain why Joseph may have been fine with that ..but there is no infallible record of their sex life.. no one does know..but it does not matter.. it has not one thing to do with our salvation

9,343 posted on 10/07/2010 4:47:24 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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INDEED.

Though given the culture . . . I think there’d be evidence lingering if Joseph was denied his BIBLICAL rights.


9,345 posted on 10/07/2010 4:50:56 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: RnMomof7
but it does not matter.. it has not one thing to do with our salvation

And I think this is an extremely important point to make. We can sit here and debate every little facet with which we disagree with one another and never get anywhere. The arguments never have resolution, always lead to additional arguments and endlessly continue for years. I try very hard to keep to the main point and that is, as you said, having to do with our salvation.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy discussing differences with the best of them, but when things get nasty - and they usually do when certain tender spots get touched - I know to just back off, to agree to disagree is sometimes the most mature and productive stance to take.

9,404 posted on 10/07/2010 7:30:02 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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Because the virgin birth is a tenet of faith

Really? That's the story the Protestants go with, they think the Virgin Mary is called that because of the Virgin Birth?

The fact is no one does know correct? There was no one in the bedroom of Mary and Joseph.

Actually, Jesus and whoever else was staying with them at the time would have been in the "bedroom." Except for the very wealthy, private bedrooms are a fairly recent development.

The Catholic church has made up various stories to explain why Joseph may have been fine with that.

"Various stories"? Try this one:
An angel of God came to Joseph and explained that the woman he betrothed to was impregnated by the Holy Spirit and she is carrying God in her womb. And then, right after the Son is born the angel returns and says that Herod is plotting to kill the Child and they need to flee into Egypt.

Now, that is the story as it is told in the Bible. Maybe other people would react differently, but if it was me, I'm pretty sure that this chain of events would totally reprioritize my life. People seem to think that it makes sense to believe that Joseph and Mary had a "normal marriage" after the Nativity of our Lord, but the truth is that the Child removed any possibility of normal. St. Joseph and the Blessed Mother had intimate roles in the most incredible and unique event in the history of the world, having a normal life simply was not a viable option for them.

no one does know..

But here is what we DO know, there is NOTHING that suggests that ANYONE other than Jesus Christ was born of Mary and the FACT that He entrusted her care to Saint John when He was on the Cross would indicate that she had no other children because it would have been unnecessary if she had other sons. Saints James and Jude and others may have been the children of Saint Joseph from a previous marriage, they may have been cousins raised by the Holy Family, but there is NOTHING to suggest that they were born to the Blessed Mother.

9,446 posted on 10/08/2010 5:36:33 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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