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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

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Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: OLD REGGIE
When the (male) Bishop is subordinate to Sister Agnes you'll have a point.

When Sister Agnes gives instruction to a male, I'll have a point. I've been instructed by Sister Agnes, and since I have fathered six children, I'll use that as proof of being male.

In the meantime women are second class citizens in the Catholic Church.

Does that mean if I cannot bear children I am second class in nature?

8,141 posted on 10/01/2010 6:45:26 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: RnMomof7
Does each member of the Trinity have an independent will?

I don't think that that question has any meaning.

8,142 posted on 10/01/2010 6:46:03 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: stfassisi
In the totally depraved mind of a calvinist everything natural and normal is thought of as dirty

You're just saying that because it is true.

8,143 posted on 10/01/2010 6:46:58 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Jaded

Fried grits are awesome! I liked grits “cereal” as a kid and I still do. It’s grits with butter, cinnamon, sugar and milk.


8,144 posted on 10/01/2010 7:15:12 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: MarkBsnr; boatbums
The quotations of Jesus are considered the direct words of God. They should surpass the musings of ordinary men, even if they are considered Scripture

Uh... before we go any further in that direction:

The Catholic who wishes to make a correct analysis of Biblical inspiration must have before his eyes the following ecclesiastical documents:
(a) "These books are held by the Church as sacred and canonical, not as having been composed by merely human labour and afterwards approved by her authority, nor merely because they contain revelation without error, but because, written under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, they have God for their author, and have been transmitted to the Church as such." (Concil. Vatic., Sess. III, const. dogm, de Fide, cap. ii, in Denz., 1787).
(b) "The Holy Ghost Himself, by His supernatural power, stirred up and impelled the Biblical writers to write, and assisted them while writing in such a manner that they conceived in their minds exactly, and determined to commit to writing faithfully, and render in exact language, with infallible truth, all that God commanded and nothing else; without that, God would not be the author of Scripture in its entirety" (Encycl. Provid. Deus, in Denz., 1952).

That the Gospels hold a special place is one thing, that the remainder of Sacred Scripture is somehow "less Holy Spirity" is not really a workable theory... so I don't think we can get away with calling anything "the musings of ordinary men". Unless you were referring to the interpretations and not the Scriptures themselves?

There are areas where St. Paul says "Christ doesn't say this, I do" and in that respect he's laying down discipline and not doctrine. If one Sacred Writer seems to contradict another the contradiction is in the eyes of the reader and the contradiction must be resolved through the lens of the Gospels and "the mind of the Church", not by consulting the Rev. Dr. Brother Jimmy Joe James down at Four-Parts Berea Sinai Bethel Calvary Holy Hallelujah YeeHaw Tabernacle of the Open Bible and Rib Shack (beer sold 'round back, closed Sundays).

You think I'm making that up... and I am, but I live in South Carolina so I'm not making much of it up.

8,145 posted on 10/01/2010 7:20:33 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: boatbums

We used to do that with white rice. Sometimes with just butter and sugar. Ahhh, comfort food. For a treat we sometimes had it for dinner.


8,146 posted on 10/01/2010 7:22:36 PM PDT by Jaded (I realized that after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F)
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To: Legatus
Thank you, on this I can say I agree with the Catholic Church concerning God being the author of Holy Scripture. There are a great many doctrines on which I agree.

That doesn't necessarily mean that the Rev. Dr. Brother Jimmy Joe James is wrong when he teaches a doctrine that contradicts that of the Catholic Church since God still works through the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth found in his words. I'm not looking for another 8000+ back-and-forth posting session, I just don't accept everything the Catholic church declares as dogmatic truth since more than a few are "extra-biblical". But thanks for your response.

8,147 posted on 10/01/2010 7:47:32 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Legatus
Shrimp 'n Grits is a Carolina specialty! I'd never even heard of it until I moved to Charlotte. It is spectacular.
8,148 posted on 10/01/2010 7:50:30 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: Legatus
That the Gospels hold a special place is one thing, that the remainder of Sacred Scripture is somehow "less Holy Spirity" is not really a workable theory... so I don't think we can get away with calling anything "the musings of ordinary men". Unless you were referring to the interpretations and not the Scriptures themselves?

If we can agree on the Gospels as the focus and the starting point of Christian Scripture, then we are in accord. Perhaps the musing of ordinary men, however Scripturally ratified may be objectionable. However it may be, the words of Jesus supersede those of any mortal men, regardless of their holiness.

8,149 posted on 10/01/2010 7:52:00 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Running On Empty; 1000 silverlings; D-fendr; maryz
James 3:13

Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show it by his good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom.

8,150 posted on 10/01/2010 7:56:20 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: MarkBsnr
If we can agree on the Gospels as the focus and the starting point of Christian Scripture, then we are in accord. Perhaps the musing of ordinary men, however Scripturally ratified may be objectionable. However it may be, the words of Jesus supersede those of any mortal men, regardless of their holiness.

We are obligated, as part of the Faith which we must hold "whole and entire", to believe that God is the author of Sacred Scripture; from "In the beginning..." right through to "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."

The CCC, sometimes called "The Cataclysm of the Catholic Church" says it this way. It may not be infallible when it wanders off, but it is authoritative:

105 God is the author of Sacred Scripture. "The divinely revealed realities, which are contained and presented in the text of Sacred Scripture, have been written down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit."69

"For Holy Mother Church, relying on the faith of the apostolic age, accepts as sacred and canonical the books of the Old and the New Testaments, whole and entire, with all their parts, on the grounds that, written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they have God as their author, and have been handed on as such to the Church herself."70

106 God inspired the human authors of the sacred books. "To compose the sacred books, God chose certain men who, all the while he employed them in this task, made full use of their own faculties and powers so that, though he acted in them and by them, it was as true authors that they consigned to writing whatever he wanted written, and no more."71

107 The inspired books teach the truth. "Since therefore all that the inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures."72

108 Still, the Christian faith is not a "religion of the book." Christianity is the religion of the "Word" of God, a word which is "not a written and mute word, but the Word which is incarnate and living".73 If the Scriptures are not to remain a dead letter, Christ, the eternal Word of the living God, must, through the Holy Spirit, "open [our] minds to understand the Scriptures."74

Further along we do find this:

124 "The Word of God, which is the power of God for salvation to everyone who has faith, is set forth and displays its power in a most wonderful way in the writings of the New Testament"96 which hand on the ultimate truth of God's Revelation. Their central object is Jesus Christ, God's incarnate Son: his acts, teachings, Passion and glorification, and his Church's beginnings under the Spirit's guidance.97

125 The Gospels are the heart of all the Scriptures "because they are our principal source for the life and teaching of the Incarnate Word, our Savior".98

And finally:

127 The fourfold Gospel holds a unique place in the Church, as is evident both in the veneration which the liturgy accords it and in the surpassing attraction it has exercised on the saints at all times:

There is no doctrine which could be better, more precious and more splendid than the text of the Gospel. Behold and retain what our Lord and Master, Christ, has taught by his words and accomplished by his deeds.(St. Caesaria the Younger)

But above all it's the gospels that occupy my mind when I'm at prayer; my poor soul has so many needs, and yet this is the one thing needful. I'm always finding fresh lights there; hidden meanings which had meant nothing to me hitherto.(St. Thérèse of Lisieux)

8,151 posted on 10/01/2010 8:10:53 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: MarkBsnr; Legatus
However it may be, the words of Jesus supersede those of any mortal men, regardless of their holiness.

Then do you also have a "redacted" Bible that contains only the "Gospels"? If you think any other writings contained in Holy Scripture are not in sync with those that include Christ's words, then why did God see fit to reveal himself before Jesus came and continue for decades afterward? I get the feeling the implication is they are all extraneous and I certainly don't agree with that.

8,152 posted on 10/01/2010 8:12:07 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums

Amen.


8,153 posted on 10/01/2010 8:25:01 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Legatus

God bless you for your posts and for the quote from St. Therese of Lisieux

St. Therese had whole chapters of the Gospel memorized. She also carried a small New Testament in the pocket of her religious garments.


8,154 posted on 10/01/2010 8:27:22 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Running On Empty; Legatus

Today is the Feast day of St. Therese.

Carmelites around the world—both religious and lay people—are celebrating.


8,155 posted on 10/01/2010 8:28:57 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; metmom; caww; OLD REGGIE; 1000 silverlings; Quix; boatbums; blue-duncan; ..
Sometimes I even post from the RCC catechism and from the Vatican and from various popes, all of whom condemn themselves by the words they speak...

Outstanding post, Dr. E. The "God isn't good enough" mentality never ceases to amaze me. Along with what you highlighted this also jumped out at me from this quote:

The Blessed Virgin Mary is to be called Queen not only on account of her DIVINE MOTHERHOOD but also because by the will of God she had a great part in the work of our salvation. . . . In this work of redemption the blessed Virgin Mary was closely associated with her Christ. . . . Just as Christ, because he redeemed us, is by a special title our King and Lord, so too is Blessed Mary, our Queen and our Mistress, because of the unique way in which she co-operated in our redemption. She provided her very substance for his body, she offered him willingly for us, and she took a unique part in our salvation by desiring it, praying for it, and so obtaining it. . . . - - Ad Coeli Reginam, pope Pius XII

This completely betrays the Catholic claims that the "Mother of God" title is appropriate and only means that Mary was the mother of Jesus and Jesus was God, etc. The term "divine motherhood" goes far beyond that and elevates Mary to god status just as your other quotes reveal. You said it all ........ paganism.

8,156 posted on 10/01/2010 10:29:46 PM PDT by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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To: Natural Law

Dr E. is correct...her posting what has been stated by Catholics reveals much...some may turn their heads and deny the obvious, that this raises mary to a Godhead,...but turning ones head does not make it any less factual in what was written and stunningly clear.


8,157 posted on 10/01/2010 10:35:37 PM PDT by caww
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To: Legatus
"...Holy Mother Church",

Why is the Catholic church called "Mother Church"....because of the belief in Mary as a Godhead with Christ?

8,158 posted on 10/01/2010 10:38:43 PM PDT by caww
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To: Forest Keeper

INDEED.

THX.


8,159 posted on 10/01/2010 10:40:00 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Legatus
Four-Parts Berea Sinai Bethel Calvary Holy Hallelujah YeeHaw Tabernacle of the Open Bible and Rib Shack (beer sold 'round back, closed Sundays).

Worthy of P.J. O'Rourke or Dave Barry! Well done!

Cheers!

8,160 posted on 10/01/2010 10:59:14 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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