Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
The two theologies are contradictory - that’s why they split. You don’t teach people one thing when they are young and something contradictory when they are older. The other alternative is to teach neither and leave it to the congregation to argue amongst themselves.
Which does your church teach?
If your grade one teacher sat you down, when you were mentally 6 yrs old, and explained the principles of algebra to you, told you the grammar rules of Spanish, or Latin or whatever language they made you take, and gave you the book of A Tale of Two Cities and told you to write a book report, why didn't you just understand all of it and enter 9th grade?
some people somewhere probably could, are you just a slacker? lol
See that's what people don't understand. Even if you're going to butter them or cheese them, grits still need salt.
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. Hominey grits need some salt in 'em or they just taste like lumpy paste.
grits ain’t for everybody, not even every Texan
Read my reply again. The two are contradictory. No matter how you get there or when.
And popes
What you comprehended at 6 years old of the principles of Algebra-- was that the full understanding? Of course not. Even mathematicians don't understand the all of it.
Does each member of the Trinity have an independent will?
Popes are bishops after all.
But math, algebra, trig, calculus all build upon the same foundational principles.
Double predestination and free will are two different and contradictory foundations.
I used to hate the very idea of grits, then we had a New Year's party a few years ago and were served some kind of shrimp stuff on grits... it was spectacular and I've been hooked on grits ever since. Buttered, cheesed, gravyed... argh, now I'm hungry.
Yep! :)
As and ex Catholic I thought you would have known that a Pope is a Bishop, the Bishop of Rome.
The Divine Will is One. Our Lord has the Divine Will and a human will because He has the Divine Nature and a human nature. That is how He says "Not My will but Thy Will be done"
Maybe they are, maybe they’re not. We can only understand what God has graciously revealed to us. And what you may have understood at 6 years old is not necessarily what Albert Einstein understood about math at 6 yrs old, and you would have been very foolish to insist that he did
You do not want to go there because the Catholic church is rife with Catholics that have affairs, priest that assault little boys, popes with bastard children, politicians that love abortion etc
My point was missed.. doing good works, being nice, helping neighbors is all good stuff.. but it saves no one..not the doer or the receiver.. it gives no testimony to Jesus Christ if the words are not spoken good deeds only witness to what a swell person someone is.. not Christ or His work on the cross..
I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
Show how they are not contradictory. Would you be as comfortable in a Free Will Baptist Church as you would in a Reformed Baptist Church? Are you aware of the difference?
Albert was much better at it, but both Albert and I were taught the same mathematically axioms. Not different and contradictory ones.
well... grits. If you haven’t had them, you can’t understand them. Then some who have had them, still can’t understand them. Then some never try them in the first place, thinking they just can’t be edible. then some try them and are convinced that they’re not edible. Others try them and go, Oh this ain’t so bad! and still others just out and out like them. Just goes to show, not everybody is alike now doesn’t it
Even if they were doomed to hell in the womb? Belief is irrelevant to salvation in double predestination.
I am comfortable in any church that preaches God’s word. When they throw out the bible and preach whatever seems good to men, no
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