Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
You must have missed some verses (especially Paul's) that say otherwise.
Christ inherited His human nature and , for lack of a better term , DNA from Mary.
His Divinity always was and always will be, Holiness is an attribute of God so His sinlessness is eternal
Exactly
The Queen of Heaven and the dispenser of all graces says otherwise.
Jeremiah 7:18 says, "... the women knead the dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven; and they pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke Me to anger!"
Oh, I hope everyone gets to see how the Old Testament scripture was twisted, there.
If you are going to quote me, please have the courtesy to ping me.
I actually thought of that, but it occurred to me it would be over the head of the Chief Reformer of the RF.
No, it was no kind of any of that. It was a caution, that those who judge others eternal destination based on the reaction to unbelievable trials should be very wary that Heaven does not call on them to show how it should be done.
I am certain that those judging Mother Teresa's faith invite, by their arrogance, a chance to show how they can keep their faith in such trials.
I think it’s lamentable that anyone who professes to be a follower of Jesus Christ should be comparing themselves with another person who was also a Christian and especially to say “my faith in Christ is indeed greater than hers.”
In fact, I think this whole dismal discussion which has devolved into the defamation of Mother Teresa is disgraceful.
It is like James and John overheard by Jesus, disputing over who would be on the right hand of Jesus and who at His left; they were rebuked by Jesus for that and asked if they were willing to accept the same “cup” that the Lord would face.
As I recall, there was no claim to be a “follower of Christ” rather, the claim was being one of the Elect.
Agreed.Which is why I said Divinity can't lose faith since it does not have it to lose
He is a Divine Person with a human nature, soul, will and intellect, united (that is, assumed) to the Divine Nature, Divine Will of the Divine Person who is Jesus Christ.
Correct.
From the Summa by Aquinas
Objection 1. It would seem that the Son is not equal to the Father in greatness. For He Himself said (John 14:28): "The Father is greater than I"; and the Apostle says (1 Corinthians 15:28): "The Son Himself shall be subject to Him that put all things under Him."
Reply to Objection 1. These words are to be understood of Christ's human nature, wherein He is less than the Father, and subject to Him; but in His divine nature He is equal to the Father. This is expressed by Athanasius, "Equal to the Father in His Godhead; less than the Father in humanity": and by Hilary (De Trin. ix): "By the fact of giving, the Father is greater; but He is not less to Whom the same being is given"; and (De Synod.): "The Son subjects Himself by His inborn piety"--that is, by His recognition of paternal authority; whereas "creatures are subject by their created weakness."
Equality is measured by greatness. In God greatness signifies the perfection of nature, as above explained (1, ad 1), and belongs to the essence. Thus equality and likeness in God have reference to the essence; nor can there be inequality or dissimilitude arising from the distinction of the relations. Wherefore Augustine says (Contra Maxim. iii, 13), "The question of origin is, Who is from whom? but the question of equality is, Of what kind, or how great, is he?" Therefore, paternity is theFather's dignity, as also the Father's essence: since dignity is something absolute, and pertains to the essence. As, therefore, the same essence, which in the Father is paternity, in the Son is filiation, so the same dignity which, in the Father is paternity, in the Son is filiation. It is thus true to say that the Son possesses whatever dignity the Father has; but we cannot argue--"the Father has paternity, therefore the Son has paternity," for there is a transition from substance to relation. For the Father and the Son have the same essence and dignity, which exist in the Father by the relation of giver, and in the Son by relation of receiver.
I realize I may be preaching to the choir here, but someone started this diversion
This happens when one stays up too late
I forgot.
Well, I could be wrong. That’s just what I recall.
So, If I were you,I would expect to be tried since you seem to elevating yourself as if your faith is greater than someone like Mother Teresa who reached out to love the worst of human suffering
DR E-That is a crude, ugly and pathetic statement to make. A kind of threat. Shame on you. Those who caution others about speculative trials should look to their own darkened hearts.
It's not a threat,Dr E,and Trials are gifts through my experience.Furthermore ,if you don't have trials you're most likely not living a Christian life.If you are to imitate Christ you are going to have trials
From Blessed Therese Of Avila
""Trials help us detach ourselves from the earth; they make us look higher than this world. Here below nothing can satisfy us. One cannot enjoy a moment's rest save in constant readiness to do the will of God.""
""It is so sweet to serve our Lord in the night of trial; we have only this life to practice the virtue of faith. ""
She intercedes on our behalf. She is th Queen of Heaven. That doesn't make Her a goddess, any more than the royal consort of Britian is a king. Understand?
You may have yourself convinced of your superior holiness, and you may even have a few other Kool-aid drinkers fooled as well, but I'm not buying into it and I'm dead certain that the Jedi Mind Trick isn't going to work on God either.
Paranoia is alive and well.
Yeah, “threat” can you believe it? LOL
mind reading and personal, knock it off
SFA, the Gospels tell us that Jesus prayed. So, was he merely acting? And when he cried out "Why have you forsaken me?", was than an an act as well? Either he had faith or he was acting.
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