Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Read Christ’s words in Mark 10.
“...from the beginning...”
Rome tries once again to defend its anti-Scriptural priestcraft.
And we know how well that’s working out for them.
Sure. Although not much room for those who believe Mary is a “co-redeemer.”
There are only three members of the holy Trinity. Not four, as Rome teaches.
But you post no Scripture to refute the Scripture I post.
You just squirm and throw spitballs.
Isn't that a tailor-made belief system for mankind? It's a real miracle it's not the only one!
But it seems likely that those RCs who are His have been saved not because of Rome, but in spite of Rome. How could God be pleased to hear people are believing their priest to be "another Christ" and referring to Mary as a "co-Redeemer" and thinking that God's word is merely an imperfect aid to understanding tradition and not the infallible instrument of God's grace?
Semper Reformanda.
Except that is not what "Rome" teaches, that is only what you falsely claim. Ample evidence exists to show the specious nature of that claim. What exactly should we call a false claim like that and not offend the moderators?
I have a bet with someone on what the next unrelated anti-Catholic slur you dig up out of your repertoire of falsehoods. I can hardly wait. You are very predictable and NEVER disappoint.
Unregenerate man can only choose what is sin in Gods eyes.. His will is bound by the sin of Adam, he will always choose what he prefers, and he will never choose to see himself as a sinner, repent and make Jesus Lord. He loves his life as it is and his sin.
When the grace of God regenerates a man he is "born again" returning his will to the state of the Adam and Eve, allowing him to choose to sin or not sin ... he is able to be obedient to God, something the unregenerate man is not.
AMEN! All glory to God alone.
Couldn’t find it again, eh?
Can one be faithful to one's spouse? Can one not lie? Can one not steal? Can one be faithful to God? Can one say no to sin.
If being a Christian is being a slave to God, then yes, you can. It's not for lack of grace or Holy Spirit, but for lack of faith that people fail. So how can anyone claim to be faithful when everyone cheats on God while wearing Christ?
Apostle Paul doesn't leave any room for serving two masters when he says Christians are saints, who are dead to sin and slaves to righteousness.
Its all marketing. Calvin reminds me of that Sham-Wow guy.
Your posts indicate a lack of knowledge of the contributions of monastics to the development and spread of Christianity. Have you limited your study of the history of Christianity to certain time frames?
And very predictable too.
It's evident that anti-Catholics don't believe that Christianity and the mysteries of faith are anything to be studied and contemplated. After all, all they need is a simple search engine and they know everything about everything. And what they don't know is obviously a lie or useless information. It's that whole indwelling thing.
Well, neither Paul not Christ give you any credit for just feeling the remorse. Saying you are sorry just doesn't cut it. How many times do you want to be regenerated!? In case you missed it, there is only one Baptism. You don't get a second chance.
Christ commands you: "sin no more!" and Paul says you are a slave to righteousness. You can't serve two masters. If you have faith you will never cheat on God, but if you continue to sin, Paul tells you there is no faith in you..
And he says that if, once regenerated, you continua to sin you are not going to heaven. Those who claim to be in Christ but can't say not to sin are cheaters, and they have no faith, says Paul clearly. No one ever says in the Bible that being a Christian would be easy.
That's something Luther invented. Paul and Peter tell you that being a Christian is a life of self-denial and suffering. Protestants turned that around into a cult of feel-good self-rightouesness.
NO ONE has said anything different on this thread. What we know of "God's will" is found in the Scriptures and the Scriptures tell us that no one will see heaven who denies Him.
Doubt is not a denial. It's actually a struggle.
If Mother Teresa's last thought on her mind as she died was "I have no faith in Jesus Christ as Lord, God and Savior," what is your best guess as to her eternal reward?
I don't second guess God. But it seems to me, self-professed "Christians" do.
Do you think she could be saved having said she once knew Christ and then turned her back on Him?
Christians should be content believing that God is just and merciful, always and forever more.
Would Peter have been saved if his life had ended after he denied Christ?
Is that any of your concern? You have the commandment "sin no more." Are you a "slave to righteousness" or just something you profess on your lips in hopes it catches? Are you faithful to God? If you are not, Apostle Paul says there is not faith you.
Catholics and Orthodox know that and that's why they keep saying "God have mercy". That's why they can only hope that their imperfect faith will not condemn them if they honestly try and persevere despite their weakness.
Sometimes I even post from the RCC catechism and from the Vatican and from various popes, all of whom condemn themselves by the words they speak...
"The Father of mercies willed that the Incarnation should be preceded by assent on the part of the predestined mother, so that just as a woman had a share in bringing about death, so also a woman should contribute to life. . . . Rightly, therefore, the Fathers see Mary not merely as passively engaged by God, but as freely cooperating in the work of man's salvation through faith and obedience. For, as St. Irenaeus says, she "being obedient, became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race." Hence not a few of the early Fathers gladly assert with him in their preaching: "the knot of Eve's disobedience was untied by Mary's obedience: what the virgin Eve bound through her disbelief, Mary loosened by her faith." Comparing Mary with Eve, they call her "Mother of the living," and frequently claim: "death through Eve, life through Mary." - Second Vatican Council
What is wrong with this picture?
Mary is being given the glory due God alone.
Paganism.
Thus the Blessed Virgin advanced in her pilgrimage of faith, and faithfully persevered in her union with her Son unto the cross, where she stood, in keeping with the divine plan, enduring with her only begotten Son the intensity of his suffering, associated herself with his sacrifice in her mother's heart, and lovingly consenting to the immolation of this victim which was born of her. - Second Vatican Council
Mary "consented" to Christ's sacrifice??? Really? If Mary had not "consented," would Christ not have been sacrificed for your sins and mine? Was Mary's "consent" required for salvation???
Paganism.
Mary suffered and, as it were, nearly died with her suffering Son; for the salvation of mankind she renounced her mother's rights and, as far as it depended on her, offered her Son to placate divine justice; so we may well say that she with Christ redeemed mankind. - - Inter Sodalicia, pope Benedict XV
Here we have it, folks. "Mary with Christ redeemed mankind."
Paganism.
It is no exaggeration to say that it is due chiefly to her leadership and help that the wisdom and teachings of the Gospel spread so rapidly to all the nations of the world in spite of the most obstinate difficulties and most cruel persecutions and brought everywhere in their train a new reign of justice and peace. - - Adiutricem Populi, pope Leo XIII
lol. So now we have not only Mary as mediator and Mary as co-redeemer we have Mary as the greatest evangelist!
What next? Mary as Super Hero who leaps tall building with a single bound?
Paganism.
. . . it was on Calvary that Mary's suffering, beside the suffering of Jesus, reached an intensity which can hardly be imagined from a human point of view but which was mysteriously and supernaturally fruitful for the Redemption of the world. - - Salvifici Doloris, pope John Paul II
Mary's suffering was not "fruitful" for anyone's salvation. Repent of that blasphemy.
She conceived, brought forth, and nourished Christ, she presented him to the Father in the temple, shared her Son's sufferings as he died on the cross. Thus, in a wholly singular way she cooperated by her obedience, faith, hope and burning charity in the work of the Savior in restoring supernatural life to souls. - - Second Vatican Council
God forbid. A pagan in darkest New Guinea couldn't have misunderstand God's word any more than that.
The Blessed Virgin Mary is to be called Queen not only on account of her divine motherhood but also because by the will of God she had a great part in the work of our salvation. . . . In this work of redemption the blessed Virgin Mary was closely associated with her Christ. . . . Just as Christ, because he redeemed us, is by a special title our King and Lord, so too is Blessed Mary, our Queen and our Mistress, because of the unique way in which she co-operated in our redemption. She provided her very substance for his body, she offered him willingly for us, and she took a unique part in our salvation by desiring it, praying for it, and so obtaining it. . . . - - Ad Coeli Reginam, pope Pius XII
"And so obtaining it." Paganism.
Sometimes I think Rome is just heaping coals of blasphemy on the fire that burns within that church just to see how much abuse the Gospel can take.
Roman Catholics need to read the Bible wherein they can learn the truth, God willing.
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins" -- Colossians 1:12-14 "Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
We do not give thanks for Mary's sacrifice, Mary's obedience, Mary's righteousness, Mary's mediation nor Mary's redemption.
To do so is...Paganism.
Bingo! You just covered my lunch.
I've got $20 riding on your next unrelated anti-Catholic slur.........Come on, baby needs a new pair of shoes!
With a French accent. :)
What a coincidence - I post scripture and sarcasm! Why go anywhere else?
What a coincidence - I post scripture and sarcasm! Why go anywhere else?
Wow, two for two..... Its like I am Kreskin or that guy who bends spoons, but I cheat, I've seen this movie more than a few times and know what the pattern is. How much should I bet on the next one?
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