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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"There are only three members of the holy Trinity. Not four, as Rome teaches."

Except that is not what "Rome" teaches, that is only what you falsely claim. Ample evidence exists to show the specious nature of that claim. What exactly should we call a false claim like that and not offend the moderators?

I have a bet with someone on what the next unrelated anti-Catholic slur you dig up out of your repertoire of falsehoods. I can hardly wait. You are very predictable and NEVER disappoint.

7,166 posted on 09/28/2010 12:03:50 PM PDT by Natural Law (A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
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To: Natural Law

And very predictable too.


7,172 posted on 09/28/2010 12:42:07 PM PDT by Jaded (I realized that after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F)
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To: Natural Law; RnMomof7; metmom; caww; OLD REGGIE; 1000 silverlings; Quix; boatbums; blue-duncan; ...
I post Scripture and you post sarcasm.

Sometimes I even post from the RCC catechism and from the Vatican and from various popes, all of whom condemn themselves by the words they speak...

"The Father of mercies willed that the Incarnation should be preceded by assent on the part of the predestined mother, so that just as a woman had a share in bringing about death, so also a woman should contribute to life. . . . Rightly, therefore, the Fathers see Mary not merely as passively engaged by God, but as freely cooperating in the work of man's salvation through faith and obedience. For, as St. Irenaeus says, she "being obedient, became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race." Hence not a few of the early Fathers gladly assert with him in their preaching: "the knot of Eve's disobedience was untied by Mary's obedience: what the virgin Eve bound through her disbelief, Mary loosened by her faith." Comparing Mary with Eve, they call her "Mother of the living," and frequently claim: "death through Eve, life through Mary." - Second Vatican Council

What is wrong with this picture?

Mary is being given the glory due God alone.

Paganism.

Thus the Blessed Virgin advanced in her pilgrimage of faith, and faithfully persevered in her union with her Son unto the cross, where she stood, in keeping with the divine plan, enduring with her only begotten Son the intensity of his suffering, associated herself with his sacrifice in her mother's heart, and lovingly consenting to the immolation of this victim which was born of her. - Second Vatican Council

Mary "consented" to Christ's sacrifice??? Really? If Mary had not "consented," would Christ not have been sacrificed for your sins and mine? Was Mary's "consent" required for salvation???

Paganism.

Mary suffered and, as it were, nearly died with her suffering Son; for the salvation of mankind she renounced her mother's rights and, as far as it depended on her, offered her Son to placate divine justice; so we may well say that she with Christ redeemed mankind. - - Inter Sodalicia, pope Benedict XV

Here we have it, folks. "Mary with Christ redeemed mankind."

Paganism.

It is no exaggeration to say that it is due chiefly to her leadership and help that the wisdom and teachings of the Gospel spread so rapidly to all the nations of the world in spite of the most obstinate difficulties and most cruel persecutions and brought everywhere in their train a new reign of justice and peace. - - Adiutricem Populi, pope Leo XIII

lol. So now we have not only Mary as mediator and Mary as co-redeemer we have Mary as the greatest evangelist!

What next? Mary as Super Hero who leaps tall building with a single bound?

Paganism.

. . . it was on Calvary that Mary's suffering, beside the suffering of Jesus, reached an intensity which can hardly be imagined from a human point of view but which was mysteriously and supernaturally fruitful for the Redemption of the world. - - Salvifici Doloris, pope John Paul II

Mary's suffering was not "fruitful" for anyone's salvation. Repent of that blasphemy.

She conceived, brought forth, and nourished Christ, she presented him to the Father in the temple, shared her Son's sufferings as he died on the cross. Thus, in a wholly singular way she cooperated by her obedience, faith, hope and burning charity in the work of the Savior in restoring supernatural life to souls. - - Second Vatican Council

God forbid. A pagan in darkest New Guinea couldn't have misunderstand God's word any more than that.

The Blessed Virgin Mary is to be called Queen not only on account of her divine motherhood but also because by the will of God she had a great part in the work of our salvation. . . . In this work of redemption the blessed Virgin Mary was closely associated with her Christ. . . . Just as Christ, because he redeemed us, is by a special title our King and Lord, so too is Blessed Mary, our Queen and our Mistress, because of the unique way in which she co-operated in our redemption. She provided her very substance for his body, she offered him willingly for us, and she took a unique part in our salvation by desiring it, praying for it, and so obtaining it. . . . - - Ad Coeli Reginam, pope Pius XII

"And so obtaining it." Paganism.

Sometimes I think Rome is just heaping coals of blasphemy on the fire that burns within that church just to see how much abuse the Gospel can take.

Roman Catholics need to read the Bible wherein they can learn the truth, God willing.

"Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins" -- Colossians 1:12-14

We do not give thanks for Mary's sacrifice, Mary's obedience, Mary's righteousness, Mary's mediation nor Mary's redemption.

To do so is...Paganism.

7,175 posted on 09/28/2010 12:51:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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