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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^
| 8/27/10
| Reginald Firehammer
Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
Intended Catholic Dictatorship
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)
TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: individualliberty
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To: Cronos
Sharing anything of a theological or historical bent with these pagans is an utter waste of time. They have exercised their free will and choose to be on the side of their father , the father of all lies.
The are happy with denial of the Trinity, while accepting UFO's, space cadets who along with brother Jimmy, Sister Frances and Sister Aimee tickle their noses with the smoke of Satan. Allow them to remain in their profound ignorance with the prince of darkness tricking them into a false sense of salvation.
When addressing one of the unwashed remember Mt 7:6 casting pearls to swine.
6,421
posted on
09/20/2010 1:14:33 PM PDT
by
bronx2
(while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
To: Natural Law
Now that you have been made aware of your error all subsequent repetitions will legitimately be classified as lies. lol. Roman Catholic apologists cannot debate from fact, so they shout down the opposition with invectives and inexplicably declare themselves to be correct.
Classify whatever you want as you want. You will still (and seemingly forever) be wrong.
6,422
posted on
09/20/2010 1:15:53 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Legatus
Drop what?
Forget I said anything.
6,423
posted on
09/20/2010 1:16:05 PM PDT
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
To: Judith Anne
Nope. Just abide by the rules and everyone will benefit.
6,424
posted on
09/20/2010 1:18:26 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
Just like the AG Jimmy Swaggert and his son Donnie. Jimmy and Frances probably used artificial birth control since he was an only child. The church forbids contraception but the tears after the "I have sinned speech" were flowing like Niagara Falls. You think Jimmy is saved or still sinning?
6,425
posted on
09/20/2010 1:20:48 PM PDT
by
bronx2
(while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
To: wagglebee
You mean the media is downplaying how many people attended events where someone was talking about the immorality of things like abortion and homosexuality? Shocking!Where did I say the media was downplaying the numbers? The media is, for the most part, correctly reporting the fact that smaller crowds came to see Ratzinger than Rome had originally estimated.
And the crowds were thin, in no small part, because Anglicanism is still the dominant religion of Britain, and Ratzinger was elevating an ex-Anglican who swam the Tiber to a position of import within Rome.
What a surprise that many would find that nothing to celebrate.
You do realize don't you that the Anglicans who were protesting the Pope were the Anglicans who LIKE the secularization of Christianity?
Some of them were. But few of those protesters believes men are "another Christ," that Mary is a "co-redeemer" or that men are not saved by their own good works.
6,426
posted on
09/20/2010 1:28:45 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Dr. Eckleburg; Natural Law; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; Campion; don-o; ...
Roman Catholic apologists cannot debate from fact, so they shout down the opposition with invectives and inexplicably declare themselves to be correct. Let me give an illustration that you will hopefully be able to understand:
Let's say that there is a person who continually says that 2+2=7. This person is told countless times that the correct answer to 2+2 is 4, yet they insist on saying that 2+2=7. Now, at some point a reasonable person will have no choice but to reach one of two conclusions:
A. That the person lacks the requisite intellect to grasp even remedial mathematics.
or
B. That the person is a habitual liar.
How would YOU label such a person?
6,427
posted on
09/20/2010 1:28:45 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: OLD REGGIE
Forget I said anything. No, no, no, I was supposed to ask "on the floor?" and then you were supposed to say "no let me have it".
6,428
posted on
09/20/2010 1:30:03 PM PDT
by
Legatus
(Keep calm and carry on)
To: wagglebee
Once again we've been provided clear evidence by your post that Roman Catholic apologists label as "lies" any belief or practice that disagrees with Rome.
How hard is this for Rome to understand? Disagreement is not "lying." Your opinions carry no more weight than anyone else's opinions.
And frankly, if your theological opinions are not founded on the Scriptures, your opinions are meaningless anyway.
6,429
posted on
09/20/2010 1:32:44 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
6,430
posted on
09/20/2010 1:33:01 PM PDT
by
D-fendr
(Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
To: bronx2
lol. Jimmy Swaggert has nothing to do with this conversation.
But don't let that stop you.
6,431
posted on
09/20/2010 1:34:50 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
REMEMBER focus on the message not on statistics as Jesus did in Jn 6:66 unless of course you wish to claim membership with the secular humanistic agnostic crowd.
Accept Jesus as your personal savior.
6,432
posted on
09/20/2010 1:37:48 PM PDT
by
bronx2
(while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
To: Dr. Eckleburg; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; Campion; don-o; Mrs. Don-o; ...
Where did I say the media was downplaying the numbers? You didn't the media ALWAYS downplays the crowds when someone is opposing things like abortion and homosexuality.
The media is, for the most part, correctly reporting the fact that smaller crowds came to see Ratzinger than Rome had originally estimated.
And you know this how exactly? Is it because you trust the media? Or do you get some sort of newsletter email from Ian Paisley?
And the crowds were thin, in no small part, because Anglicanism is still the dominant religion of Britain, and Ratzinger was elevating an ex-Anglican who swam the Tiber to a position of import within Rome.
Yep, those are some thin crowds!
![](http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5803/glasgow.jpg)
A view of the Papal Mass in Glasgow
![](http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7724/outsidewestminter.jpg)
A view outside of the Mass in Westminster (of course, it was full to the brim inside)
![](http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1618/tohyde.jpg)
The view on the way to Hyde Park
![](http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9420/athyde1.jpg)
One view of the vigil at Hyde Park
![](http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1521/athyde2.jpg)
The opposite view at Hyde Park
![](http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7388/outsidebirmingham.jpg)
The crowd outside the Mass at Crofton Park, Birmingham
![](http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/931/crofton.jpg)
Crofton Park, Birmingham
Some of them were. But few of those protesters believes men are "another Christ," that Mary is a "co-redeemer" or that men are not saved by their own good works.
Do you think I care for a minute what the 200 people that Ian Paisley was able to round up think?
6,433
posted on
09/20/2010 1:38:11 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
" Roman Catholic apologists cannot debate from fact."but Anti-Catholics do not know or care what is or is not fact. Some keep a canister of lies ready to repeat as the urge strikes them, often for nothing other than to annoy or anger Catholics. Usually, however, it is to serve the dark one in his continuing efforts to destroy the Church that Christ Himself began.
Heed the call of the Holy Spirit that beckons you to Catholic topic sites in the hopes tat you will willingly accept God, not Calvin and live Beatitude.
6,434
posted on
09/20/2010 1:39:10 PM PDT
by
Natural Law
(A lie is a known untruth expressed as truth. A liar is the one who tells it.)
To: D-fendr
Fascinating how Roman Catholic apologists eagerly embrace the “despicable heathen” press when it writes a fawning piece (probably by a religion editor) on their vicar of Rome.
6,435
posted on
09/20/2010 1:39:29 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Natural Law
6,436
posted on
09/20/2010 1:40:15 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Dr. Eckleburg; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; Campion; don-o; Mrs. Don-o; ...
Once again we've been provided clear evidence by your post that Roman Catholic apologists label as "lies" any belief or practice that disagrees with Rome. How hard is this for Rome to understand? Disagreement is not "lying." Your opinions carry no more weight than anyone else's opinions.
And frankly, if your theological opinions are not founded on the Scriptures, your opinions are meaningless anyway.
I ask what opinion a person should form of someone who denies that 2+2=4, insisting that the answer is 7, and THIS is how you respond? Astounding.
Oh yeah, the phrase "your opinions are meaningless anyway" is making it personal.
6,437
posted on
09/20/2010 1:41:33 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
As has been reported, 50,000 people.
Less than expected.
6,438
posted on
09/20/2010 1:41:32 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: wagglebee
So sorry not to answer according to your desires. Let’s try again.
Who believes 2 + 2 + 7?
6,439
posted on
09/20/2010 1:43:07 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
I think you started they dueling press reports. If they can be used to illustrate your point, they can be used to illustrate the contrary as well.
6,440
posted on
09/20/2010 1:43:12 PM PDT
by
D-fendr
(Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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