Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]
Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
At one point early on you wrote: "Yet folks are arrogantly defining and describing Heavenly existentials without a visit?" Then you went on to do precisely that with "Loving Mamma did her duty. Now she’s teaching aborted babies the ways of God. End of story."
Then you go on to disagree with absolutely everyone including Luther, Calvin, Zwingli and Wesley (who all believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary)... for no reason I can really understand.
Then you call Mary Our Lord's pet rabbit. Strange that, I wonder how Our Lord feels about that. I know that if you called my mother a pet rabbit I'd escort you through the front window by the seat of your pants. I think that for your opinions to work then Our Lord would have to be different from us in more ways than just sin. Sort of a "well He was man, but not really, it was more of an act".
THEN something very weird happens, you appear to start (and I can't phrase this any other way) "channeling" God. A lot. "Mamma's first job with me is done." "GET YOUR PRIORITIES RIGHT BEFORE ME", etc. Some of it I understood as Quix speaking for Christ but other parts looked like Quix speaking as Christ... or more accurately Christ speaking as Quix.
So there was a whole bunch of yelling, shouting and hysteria that didn't bring anything new to the table. What you have written lately has led me to more seriously and deeply explore Catholic Marian piety and what I find is that it's beautifully Christocentric, more so than I had ever appreciated.
It's times like this that I humorously wonder if you aren't really a secret Vatican agent after all, I think you've done more to advance the Catholic Faith than anything I've ever written.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
True.
More than that . . . unkindness in the face of ridicule . . .
is a poor showing of the quality of one’s Christianity.
INDEED.
Time will tell.
It is inaccurate to say I called Mary a pet rabbit.
Are we going to go through another 100 posts of RC’s screaming about me calling Mary a pet rabbit when I did not?
I clearly made an analogy. Deal with the analogy. Misstating what I said is not dealing with it.
I’m glad I didn’t say pit bull! Sheesh.
Montfort asked Jesus a series of questions.
I answered as I believe Jesus would have/did/has.
Ask HIM if I’m inaccurate.
Yelling, shouting and hysteria?
I didn’t hear nor see any.
There was a lot of emphasis on some words and phrases.
I don’t think my heart rate nor breathing rate inceased at all.
I did feel some increased forcefulness in my spirit when writing some parts.
Roman Catholic Maryolatry
is ANYTHING BUT
CHRISTOCENTRIC.
Unless, perhaps, one is using the
VATICAN DAFFYNITIONARY for “Christocentric.”
OOOOPS FORGOT ABOUT THE YOU business.
Sorry.
Yet it was fine to accuse others and demand apology without doing the work to find out. You don't even know if it was more than one - and you accuse the "group."
The post is still unintelligible. And he video of the “alien” or the demon creating the illusion of the alien, whatever, is still Loony Tunes.
And my point was you wouldn’t work to make the loony seem less loony for someone who did that.
Is there some part of
‘deliberately choose the group and avoid focusing on individuals’
that is difficult to understand?
Maybe I could put it another way.
I go after a
MENTALITY, MIND-SET, PERSPECTIVE, NONSENSE ASSERTIONS, ETC. OF DELIBERATELY CONSTRUED AMORPHOUS, ILL-DEFINED COLLECTIONS OF RC’S.
and not, per se, indivual RC’s by the throat.
The latter is the RC rabid clique mode with Proddys.
That’s not my mode.
I earnestly indeavor to leave individual stuff to God. He knows all the particulars in each individual case. I merely deal with the pontifications that represent perspectives of collections of RC’s.
More than that, I use the representations here to represent thousands of RC’s, including non-FREEPER RC’s. I figure that any collection of assertions hereon MUST represent a lot of RC’s beyond the FRoman Catholics. AND THOSE clusters of RC’s’ assertions are what I write about and who I write to.
I’m only partially responsible for reading comprehension problems.
All the Proddys understood.
Maybe someone needs to check the ‘Holy’ water.
Romanek’s story has lots of elements that stand all on their own.
Most of those elements have not been successfully debunked.
I think he’s wrong about the good/evil issues. I gave his wife Guy Malone’s site in the hopes they’d check it out and stop all the abduction and visitation stuff.
I suspect that they are so immersed in it and that it is such an intense part of who he is at this point that they won’t do that.
You made a specific accusation in need of apology - to the wrong people, without bothering to be accurate. There’s no excuse for that.
Thank you for that post!
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Please delete the former and let this one stand:
Scrupulous devotees are those who imagine they are slighting the Son by honouring the Mother. They fear that by exalting Mary they are belittling Jesus.
AND THEY ARE RIGHT.
I HAVE HONORED MAMMA AND WILL HONOR MAMMA WITH ALL THE HONOR DUE HER AND ALL THE HONOR SHE HAS THE SLIGHTEST INTEREST IN. GET IT RIGHT. MAMA HAS NO! INTEREST IN HUMAN PRAISE AND HONOR BECAUSE HER DEVOTION IS UTTERLY TO THE FATHER, SON, SPIRIT. BELIEVERS MUST ABANDON THIS FAWNING OVER MAMA. THEN BELIEVERS WILL please her.
They cannot bear to see people giving to our Lady the praises due to her and which the Fathers of the Church have lavished upon her.
THEY HAVE THEIR PRIORITIES RIGHT BEFORE GOD. Millions of RC's obviously DON'T. THEY MUST GET IT RIGHT. TIME IS RUNNING OUT.
Those church leaders fawning over Mama had a lot to answer for. Idolatry is not a minor sin. They blew it. CHRISTIAN LEADERS NOW MUST GET IT RIGHT. Time is running out.
It annoys them to see more people kneeling before Mary's altar than before the Blessed Sacrament, as if these acts were at variance with each other, or as if those who were praying to our Lady were not praying through her to Jesus. They do not want us to speak too often of her or to pray so often to her.
AND THEY ARE FAR MORE RIGHT THAN the Mary focused ON SUCH MATTERS. MY WORD TEACHES Believers TO ADORINGLY/WORSHIPFULLY BOW BEFORE NO ONE BUT THE FATHER. READ THE TEN COMMANDMENTS! GET IT RIGHT. TIME IS RUNNING OUT.
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