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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

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Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
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To: wmfights
we start "running to the hills"

The neat thing is no matter where we are when it hits the fan, Jesus Christ our Lord is with us. We can trust Him.

3,561 posted on 09/10/2010 12:06:46 PM PDT by marbren
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To: wagglebee; Dr. Eckleburg
"Learn something.

Wags, you just need to learn that the rules do not apply equally to her.

3,562 posted on 09/10/2010 12:07:59 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: marbren; wmfights

There’s a reference of a nation represented by an eagle which raises vocal objection to what is happening against Israel, but I don’t recall where that is. I’ll try to find it.

It may take some time.


3,563 posted on 09/10/2010 12:09:09 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

My sense is the USA is taken out of the picture very soon.


3,564 posted on 09/10/2010 12:10:21 PM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren
It is interesting how the question of, What happens to the USA? is getting clearer.

Growing up it seemed impossible to me that the USA wouldn't be in charge of everything. Now in a couple generations we've got abortions going on all over with our tax dollars. We have sexual deviants being declared to be normal, healthy, happy adults. We have fewer people going to church on a regular basis. We have fewer marriages and more children born outside of marriage. IOW, we are disappearing as a force for good in the world and falling into a cesspool.

3,565 posted on 09/10/2010 12:10:37 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Agreed


3,566 posted on 09/10/2010 12:12:10 PM PDT by marbren
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To: wmfights

The neat thing is Our Lord Jesus Christ is bigger than our beloved USA.


3,567 posted on 09/10/2010 12:13:33 PM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren
The neat thing is no matter where we are when it hits the fan, Jesus Christ our Lord is with us. We can trust Him.

AMEN!!!!!!

I don't know how to do the colored fonts, but if I did boy would this be the post to do it.

3,568 posted on 09/10/2010 12:13:41 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: marbren
The neat thing is Our Lord Jesus Christ is bigger than our beloved USA.

You know it!

God, Family, Country in that order. Let's keep it that way!

3,569 posted on 09/10/2010 12:16:40 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

In the end all we will have left for our security is our faith in Christ. This is as it should be.


3,570 posted on 09/10/2010 12:18:31 PM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren; wmfights

I can’t recall the verse that I was thinking of, however, there is this verse, which MAY indicate involvement of the US.

Revelation 12:14
The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach.

Otherwise, it is conspicuously absent from Bible prophecy and that in itself may be an indicator that the US is not a major player in the end times events, which primarily surround the Middle East.


3,571 posted on 09/10/2010 12:20:01 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wmfights
Family

Another neat thing is we can trust Our Lord Jesus Christ to take care of our Family too!

3,572 posted on 09/10/2010 12:21:00 PM PDT by marbren
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To: OLD REGGIE

There are believers and unbelievers in all churches.

And I seriously think there are going to be many surprises when the time comes.


3,573 posted on 09/10/2010 12:21:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: marbren

Considering the path the current administration is taking us, I can’t disagree with that at all.

Much as we dislike what we see and for all the finger pointing and blame being spread around over who put him in office, if that needed to happen for Bible prophecy to be fulfilled, it was going to happen, one way or another.

We wish, of course, not to see such times, but the times we’re living in is not our choice.


3,574 posted on 09/10/2010 12:24:41 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: marbren; wmfights

2 Corinthians 4:17-18 For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.


3,575 posted on 09/10/2010 12:27:15 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Maybe, But, the trend seems to be that in the end the only country not part of the world system is Israel. This interpretation would include the USA as a separate nation also at this time of the tribulation.


3,576 posted on 09/10/2010 12:29:50 PM PDT by marbren
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To: metmom

For now, as we wait, we should live in the day the Lord has given us. Don’t worry about tomorrow. I am not a big one for stocking rice, beans and such but I will not ridicule those that do. Maybe God called them to do it. I like to live in the now and trust God to handle the future. I think he is up to the task.


3,577 posted on 09/10/2010 12:34:55 PM PDT by marbren
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To: wagglebee; metmom; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; Campion; don-o; ...
The Epistle of Ignatius to the Smyrnæans Chapter VII — Let us stand aloof from such heretics

Letters of Ignatius as proof of anything is problematic. In addition to the known forgeries, the existence of short, mid, and long rescensions of ones which may contain some truth leaves one to guess just what to believe.

The 15 forged letters of Ignatius:

"... Of later collections of Ignatian letters which have been preserved, the oldest is known as the "long recension". This collection, the author of which is unknown, dates from the latter part of the fourth century. It contains the seven genuine and six spurious letters, but even the genuine epistles were greatly interpolated to lend weight to the personal views of its author. For this reason they are incapable of bearing witness to the original form. The spurious letters in this recension are those that purport to be from Ignatius."

Catholic Encyclopedia-Ignatius Of Antioch

3,578 posted on 09/10/2010 12:36:42 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE; NYer; Salvation; Pyro7480; Coleus; narses; annalex; Campion; don-o; Mrs. Don-o; ...
Letters of Ignatius as proof of anything is problematic. In addition to the known forgeries, the existence of short, mid, and long rescensions of ones which may contain some truth leaves one to guess just what to believe.

Shocking! You actually found an anti-Catholic website that contends that the Epistle of Ignatius to the Smyrnaeans is a forgery and their essential reason for this is that it sounds to Catholic.

3,579 posted on 09/10/2010 12:46:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: metmom; marbren
Otherwise, it is conspicuously absent from Bible prophecy and that in itself may be an indicator that the US is not a major player in the end times events, which primarily surround the Middle East.

I think this is the case. We are at the backwaters of prophetic events.

Revelation 12:14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach.

Interesting thought. The woman is Israel, but I don't think the wings are the USA because Israel goes to a place in the desert. I've always thought this was in close proximity to the land of Israel.

3,580 posted on 09/10/2010 12:48:38 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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