Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Your rantings are difficult to forget, but well worth the effort.
The way that we have understood it from Apostolic times is that the intention is the important thing, not the legalistic interpretation. Jesus knows more than us, obviously, but if somebody is in a state of sin, but truly means to repent of those sins, then we understand that Jesus will handle that. But we still are instructed in the Judgement; and no free pass.
“What? Who? Little ‘ole innocent me?”
Very good. How do the good doctor’s boots taste?
That is glaringly obvious.
And predictable as the sunrise.
From lots of practice both on this thread and from what I recall dealing with Catholics in real life. There’s no difference.
And they wonder why people leave the Catholic church. Any church which claims to be Christian and doesn’t make an appreciable difference in how people lead their everyday lives doesn’t deserve the designation of *Christian* and is not one I’d stay with no matter what the denominational affiliation.
INDEED.
Not really. Manipulative is not clever. It is only, well, manipulative. As in using others to do one's dirty work. Witness the lower caste soldier ants brought to bear. Not one of them, including their Robert Gibbs, will acknowledge it, though.
He is waiting for her to apologize to me for the original alcoholism innuendo.....
INDEED.
Having a problem with alcoholic beverages? We’ll pray for you. Thanks for admitting it in a public forum. Which step is this, by the way?
Wow, I don’t know how you put up with this garbage.
God Bless you.
They condemn themselves.
INDEED.
MarkBsnr wrote:
“Basically it comes down to this: since the books of the NT did not come signed (it was considered hubris), the Church in its process of collecting, authorizing and amassing Scripture decided to put names to the books. 200 years or more after they were written. With the chaos of the intervening years, in some cases, they were simply assigned authorship based on what the Church thought at the time: e.g. Hebrews = Paul. It turns out that 1 Peter is unlikely to be Peter and 2 Peter is definitely not Peter because of the time of authorship. There are some studies going on now, and some that have recently concluded. The upshot is that we don’t know the authorship of much of the NT; however the Church has declared them Scripture and that we must believe or else we are not Christian. 2 Peter is Scripture, declared by the Church and therefore it is. Is there more you’d like?”
So, if I understand you correctly, the infallible church that canonized the writings that we know today as the Holy Scriptures of the New Testament, i.e. declared said writings to be Holy Scripture, was quite willing to misname said writings and perpetuate such lies for centuries. Do I have that right?
He is waiting for her to apologize to me for the original alcoholism innuendo.....
Not just, but it would be a start...
TRUTH
can be a very weighty THUD somtimes, ehh?
Thx.
Not exactly. The Church put names in place that they thought was right, to the best of their knowledge. We have in recent times, discovered that some of the books were not, in fact, written by the individuals named. Not a deliberate falsification at all. I'd give them kudos for admitting it in the first place - they are doing their best to find our who DID write them.
VERY WELL PUT.
But then again only those of us who have real jobs would know......
GUFFAWS.
THX.
Evidently the RC’s are trying very hard to up the ante to get the thread pulled.
That is glaringly obvious.
And predictable as the sunrise.
TRUE. TRUE.
It’s about as close as they can come to literally killing the messenger—evidently their core desire.
The original was DRECK from you.
I'm sure that Quix contributes to society, in some way, shape or form...
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