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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: individualliberty
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

And we’ll pray for YOU.


13,621 posted on 10/20/2010 6:23:27 PM PDT by Jaded (Stumbling blocks ALL AROUND, some of them camouflaged well. My toes hurt, but I got past them.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix
What did I post that was information, rather than a question?

Here's a refresher course - your OWN WORDS.

To: Dr. Eckleburg
Having a problem with alcoholic beverages? We’ll pray for you. Thanks for admitting it in a public forum. Which step is this, by the way?

YOU have posted/spread FALSE information on FR/www about a freeper.

Also, this is Jim's house - who are you to use 'his house' to spread false info about a guest, Dr.E, in his house.
13,622 posted on 10/20/2010 6:24:10 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg; Religion Moderator

nor am I a sodomite which you posted this morning. Why you are still allowed to post here is a mystery


13,623 posted on 10/20/2010 6:25:01 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: wagglebee; MarkBsnr

It was a play with words: agnosticism versus Gnosticism. :)


13,624 posted on 10/20/2010 6:25:16 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

This is no different than when they piled onto Quix over the Jesus being bioengineered by aliens fracas which they started about him.

I find it interesting that Catholics seem to have no compunction about slander and liable in spite of how they rag on non-Catholics whenever they think non-Catholics are *bearing false witness*.


13,625 posted on 10/20/2010 6:33:41 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
You've finally got my attention, Mark. After trying to avoid your idiotic, stupid and Scripturally-illiterate posts for awhile now, I find I must ping the RM to your filthy accusation.

It's all about you isn't it? If you feel the need to call the mods, then feel free. Only don't call it an accusation. It is not. It was a question.

For the record, I do not drink. An occasional glass of white wine at New Years Eve puts me to sleep. I prefer caffeine.

I don't know that. Nor do I care.

Not that any of this is your business. But your ugly, lying, foul, disgusting remarks on this thread need to be called out for what they are -- insanity.

I defer to an expert.

I'll pray for your employment, Mark.

Christian ones, please.

13,626 posted on 10/20/2010 6:35:33 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: metmom

Clearly, they have no defense of their faith and they can’t support their beliefs and practices from Scripture. The only thing left is more lies and ridicule.

They’ve got that down pat.


13,627 posted on 10/20/2010 6:35:52 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Cronos; Quix; metmom

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Hank Hanegraaff’s criticisms of others arise out of ignorance, just like your attacks on Christianity.

Your faith in men arises out of ignorance.

Your lack of faith in the saving, healing power of Christ’s blood, shed on the cross arises out of willful ignorance.
.


13,628 posted on 10/20/2010 6:36:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: metmom

spiritual bankruptcy, no wonder they’re foreclosing on old Pristine


13,629 posted on 10/20/2010 6:37:04 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Either that or it’s a community account.....


13,630 posted on 10/20/2010 6:37:45 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Either that or it’s a community account.....


13,631 posted on 10/20/2010 6:38:12 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: presently no screen name; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix
Also, this is Jim's house - who are you to use 'his house' to spread false info about a guest, Dr.E, in his house.

If you're so concerned about Jim, why did you ping Dr. E. and Quix and not Jim. I consider this a phony post and typical of the harpies, and their sycophants.

13,632 posted on 10/20/2010 6:39:46 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: 1000 silverlings
nor am I a sodomite which you posted this morning. Why you are still allowed to post here is a mystery

I don't recall calling you a sodomite. Can you tell me the post number please?

13,633 posted on 10/20/2010 6:41:19 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: RnMomof7

LOLROTF...Checkmate.....now that’s a good one RnMomof7....hahahahaha


13,634 posted on 10/20/2010 6:42:03 PM PDT by caww
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To: MarkBsnr; Religion Moderator

the mod has it now, ask him to refresh your convenient memory


13,635 posted on 10/20/2010 6:42:18 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings

It took this long?


13,636 posted on 10/20/2010 6:46:47 PM PDT by Jaded (Stumbling blocks ALL AROUND, some of them camouflaged well. My toes hurt, but I got past them.)
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To: 1000 silverlings
the mod has it now, ask him to refresh your convenient memory

I doubt that it'll be required. The weasels have all completed the PM wailing and whining to the mods, haven't they? By the way, I haven't seen your Robert Gibbs here this afternoon. Has he been given the afternoon off for good behaviour? Should I ask you? Or should I go upstairs?

13,637 posted on 10/20/2010 6:47:52 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: MarkBsnr

whoever you’re talking about, have the guts to ping him and ask


13,638 posted on 10/20/2010 6:50:06 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: MarkBsnr
our Judgement will be on our deeds and failure to repent for what falls short of Christ.

...and so what happens after that...what's the "punishment"...because if one misses the mark in one of the least of the commandments he is guilty of them all...so what sort of judgement consequences will one face then?

13,639 posted on 10/20/2010 6:51:39 PM PDT by caww
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To: MarkBsnr; Religion Moderator; 1000 silverlings; Quix; presently no screen name

You’ve personally called me an alcoholic and a harpie, and you’ve called 1000silverlings a sodomite.

Your posts get pulled but you’re still here. I can only imagine you’re on borrowed time. I can’t remember the last time someone broke as many rules as you.

Why don’t you leave the thread if you can’t follow the rules? Most of us don’t want the thread pulled. You give no evidence of agreeing with that sentiment.


13,640 posted on 10/20/2010 6:52:42 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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