Intended Catholic Dictatorship

Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

[Hank Kerchief]

Intended Catholic Dictatorship

The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.

The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).

The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.

The Intentions Made Plain

The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:

"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization

"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.

"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.

"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.

"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.

Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.

This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!

In Their Own Words

The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.

[View video in original here or on Youtube. Will not show in FR.]

Two Comments

First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.

This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.

Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.

—Reginald Firehammer (06/28/10)

[Quix]

was just telling us to find 3 posts in 10,000, yet objects to the data storage, and overlooks that Catholics here archive the same things. rules for thee, none for me

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INDEED:

The 2nd STATION OF THE STATIONS OF THE WHITE HANKY:

2.THE BLACK/WHITE ICON OF DUPLICITY, THE DOUBLE STANDARD DANCE

[Mad Dawg]

I can tell you without reading it that he had to have failed :o)

I'm not sure it's worth buying, but it's worth borrowing from the library.

[Mad Dawg]

My impression is that a lot of non-Liturgical churches have Bible study as a major feature of their worship— which makes sense: we all want communion. If we think the sacraments don’t provide it, we’ll go to what we think DOES provide it.

[Quix]

Thanks for your kind affirmation.

Let me see . . . I certainly TRY hard to abide by the rules of the forum! LOL.

Besides . . . folks incrimminate themselves plenty on the Rel Forum . . .

I do try to comment somewhat fiercely and intensely on outrageous trends, patterns, biases, heretical, blasphemous and idolatrous stuff that numbers of folks seem prone to.

[Quix]

I’m curious . . .

does anyone know . . .

is the

NURSE RACHETT BRIGADE

a fiercely rabid counter point to

THE SISTERS OF PERPETUAL INDULGENCE???

Or is one a closeted sub group of the other?

[Quix]

Simple. Don’t make nutty statements in a PUBLIC forum.

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OH DEAR!

What a threat to one of their most obligatory rituals and ‘sacred’ rights!

You REALLY ARE asking for another INQUISITION, aren’t you! LOL.

[Quix]

Please excuse my cultural ignorance . . . but . . .

what’s a harpy

in that context?

And generally?

[Quix]

INDEED.

And, in my experience, there tends to also be

a huge compulsion to jump to conclusions along those lines

and a real prickly brittleness in many cases.

[Quix]

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but underneath are ravenous wolves.-Matthew 7:15

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Hmmmmm . . . I gather RC’s

do NOT think that is referring to

the RC pedophiles and priests given quite energetically to extremely ‘friendly’ fraternizing with altar boys??

Nor even to the Bishops who joined them and/or protected them?

[Gamecock]

I see you've visited the profile pages of Petronski, Cronos, and Hacksaw. To be sure, there are more (sandyeggo and TaxachusettsMan come to mind) but they're not with us anymore.

I am deeply saddened that nothing I have ever posted made the above cut. Time to ratchet up my game I suppose.

[Quix]

It is somewhat nice when the opposition posts evidence that one is doing one’s job.

[Quix]

Here it is in regular font:

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
WHEN GOD

HIMSELF, WALKING ISRAEL’S PATHS 2000 YEARS AGO

REPEATEDLY

REFERRED TO

“IT IS WRITTEN . . .”

AS HIS

POINT OF AUTHORITY denial of that is a

DENIAL OF GOD’S OWN EMPHASIS.

He did not even say:

“DADDY SAYS: . . . “

HE, CREATOR GOD, SAID

“IT IS WRITTEN . . . “

Papal Pontificators’ STUBBORN, REBELLIOUS REFUSAL TO TAKE THOSE DECLARATIONS OF FINAL AUTHORITY FOR WHAT THEY ARE,

Is yet again a brazen addiction to idolizing an INSTITUTION, A DOGMA, ANOTHER GOSPEL, SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM AND OPPOSED TO GOD’S AUTHORITY.

There’s no more charitable way to put the stark horrific truth.

Weasel words about the bureaucratic magicsterical power-mongers will not do.

Appeals to rubber ‘Bibles’ & rubber histories about Peter and the Vatican before it began in 300-400AD will not do.

The stark TRUTH IS

CREATOR GOD IN PERSON DECLARED

“IT IS WRITTEN . . . “

AS A POINT OF FINAL AUTHORITY.

REFUSAL TO TAKE CREATOR GOD’S OWN DECLARATIONS OF WHAT HE HIMSELF APPEALED TO AS THE FINAL AUTHORITY

IS BEYOND SUICIDALLY IGNORANT, REBELLIOUS IDIOTIC & STUPID.

IT IS STUBBORNLY REBELIOUS.

It is sticking an INSTITUTION’S FOSSILIZED GRANITE FINGER IN GOD’S EYE AND INSISTING THAT THE INSTITUTUION KNOWS BETTER THAN GOD.

HUBRIS TO THE MAX is an inadequate phrase by many orders of magnitude.

[Lera]

Ummmm....I found it!

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but underneath are ravenous wolves.-Matthew 7:15

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You mean like this one who ruined the lives of 200 young boys ?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/world/europe/25vatican.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp

[Mad Dawg]

Harpies are written about in Virgil's Aneid, which Lewis thought the second greatest poem ever written, the first greatest being Dante's Commedia (naturally).

They are creatures with the wings and hindquarters of birds but the forequarters and heads of women. They descended as a flock on a table wonderfully set for a feast and devoured what they wanted and fouled the rest with their waste, so that what they did not want was of no use to anyone else.

[Quix]

Ahhhhhhh

For some reason, I mostly avoided the Aneid and that was 40+ years ago.

Thanks.

[metmom]

Nowhere in Scripture are men instructed to claim that Scripture isn’t enough and to add their own traditions to it.

If Catholics want to disallow Scripture alone because it isn’t specifically spelled out in a manner in which Catholics would like to have it spelled out, then Catholics need to be consistent and disallow a lot of Catholic doctrine.

The word *trinity* isn’t found in Scripture and yet Catholics are sure quick enough to claim Scriptural backing for it and expect others to recognized and accept it as valid.

The word *pope* isn’t found in Scripture and yet Catholics are sure quick enough to claim Scriptural backing for it and expect others to recognized and accept it as valid.

The word *transubstantiation* isn’t found in Scripture and yet Catholics are sure quick enough to claim Scriptural backing for it and expect others to recognized and accept it as valid.

The words *immaculate conception* aren’t found in Scripture and yet Catholics are sure quick enough to claim Scriptural backing for it and expect others to recognized and accept it as valid.

For that matter, there are lots of Catholic teachings that aren’t directly and specifically spelled out which Catholics expect others to accept as true and valid.

To not apply the same criteria to *sola Scriptura* is hypocritical.

Jesus never commanded us to add tradition to Scripture and He never, by example, used tradition in addition to Scripture as a point of authority.

Just because God didn’t word something the way Catholics think He should have, doesn’t mean that He didn’t get the message across in Scripture, that Scripture alone is adequate for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.

“Do as I say, not as I do” is not a Scriptural principle.

[Natural Law]

"Nowhere in Scripture are men instructed to claim that Scripture isn’t enough and to add their own traditions to it."

That exercise in circular logic falls apart without your a priori contention. One must accept your assertion in order to validate your assertion.

[presently no screen name]

Nowhere in Scripture are men instructed to claim that Scripture isn’t enough and to add their own traditions to it.

Exactly. And Catholics are hypocritical to say Sola Scripture isn't in The Word when what is in the The Word they don't obey. For starters, Luke 11:27,28, Mark 3:35 and Ephesians 2:8,9. They don't take God at His Word.

They have no faith in God that He can preserve His Word and what He has given us we must hear and obey. Faith is the core of Christianity.

Wonder how some think they are saved. Perhaps, they don't take Matthew 7:14 serious enough either. 'But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it'.

[Legatus]

OK wait... you're asserting that in order for Catholics not to be hypocrites we must disbelieve anything that isn't explicitly spelled out in Sacred Scripture because we don't believe that everything is spelled out in Sacred Scripture?

Well raxacoricofallapatorius is no longer the silliest thing I've ever seen.

[Cronos]

"according to Jesse DuPlantis the grass in heaven is awesome. " --> yes, Jesse DuPlantis, the Pentecostal and TV charlatan who said that he visited heaven and comforted Jesus and that Jesus needed him, Jesse. Jesse also said that God cannot choose our death, he is bound and can't -- only we (according to Jesse) can choose it.

To be fair, neither RN nor Met are Pentecostals (a bit unsure of Met, but RN is OrthoPresbyterian)

ES, on the other hand IS a Pantocoastal, and ES was the one who in post 10668 said "Benny Hinn’s theology is far more solid "

Saying this, that means Ed's thinks that the below "theology" is "solid"

"Each one of them is a triune being by Himself...there's nine of them" (Benny Hinn, TBN, 3rd October 1990).

"God the Father is a person separate from the Holy Ghost. Totally separate. ...Do you know that the Holy Spirit has a soul and a body separate from that of Jesus and the Father? ...God the Father then is a triune being within Himself. He's a person, He has His own Spirit, He has a soul. …A soul is my intellect. …God thinks. …separate from the Son and separate from the Holy Ghost. …God the Father is a separate individual from the Son and the Holy Ghost, who is a triune being who walks in a spirit body and He has hair…has eyes…has a mouth…has hands" (Orlando Christian Centre, Oct 13th 1990).

"Had the Holy Spirit not been with Jesus, He would have sinned" (Good Morning Holy Spirit, first edition, 1990, p135);

"Jesus knew the only way He would stop Satan is by becoming one in nature with him" (Benny Hinn, TBN, 15th December 1990).

"Adam was a super-being when God created him. ...The Scriptures declare clearly that he had dominion over the fowls of the air...which means he used to fly. ...Adam not only flew, he flew to space. He was- with one thought he would be on the moon" (Praise the Lord, TBN, 26th December 1991).

"When you were born again the Word was made flesh in you. And you became flesh of His flesh and bone of His bone. Don't tell me you have Jesus. You are everything He was and everything He is and ever shall be... Don't say, 'I have.' Say, 'I am, I am, I am, I am, I am'" (ibid.) "When you say, 'I am a Christian,' you are saying, 'I am mashiach,' in the Hebrew. I am a little messiah walking on earth, in other words. That is a shocking revelation. ...May I say it like this? You are a little god on earth running around" (Praise-a-Thon, TBN, 6th November'90)

"SO, I'M BENNY JEHOVAH!" (Spiritual warfare seminar, May 2 1990).

"Say after me: 'Within me is a God-Man.' Say it again. 'Within me is a God-Man.' [Congregation repeats.] Now, let's say even better than that. Let's say, 'I AM A GOD-MAN.' …This spirit man within me is a God-Man. …Say 'I'm born-of-heaven-God-Man. I'm a God-Man. I'm a sample of Jesus. I'm a super being'" (Praise the Lord, TBN, Dec 6 1990).

"God came to earth and touched a piece of dust and turned it into a God. …Are you a child of God? Then you're divine! Are you a child of God? Then you're not human!" (TBN, Dec 1, 1990).

"I [Jesus] loved you enough to become one of ya! And I love you enough to make you one of me!" (TBN, Dec 1 '90).

"When I stand in Christ- I am one with Him; united to Him; one spirit with Him. I am not, hear me, I AM NOT PART OF HIM, I AM HIM! THE WORD HAS BECOME FLESH IN ME!. …When my hand touches someone, it's the hand of Jesus touching somebody" (Our Position in Christ).

Do you really mean to say that you think Benny Hinn's "theology" is solid? Wooo!