Quotations from Mormon Leaders on the Christian Faith

Alpha & Omega Ministries ^ | James White

[Elsie]

Man do I miss calvin and hobbes!

Mighty close!

got milk?

[Godzilla]

also close at times

[SZonian]

I read ‘em every day. Enjoy!

[Godzilla]

I will now that they are bookmarked ;P

[MarkBsnr]

Most of the ones I know who went ‘inactive’ got hooked on drugs/alcohol or were promiscuous. The legalism of the LDS tends to give way to ‘sin like you mean it’ and excess.

Interesting. The life of Martin Luther is instructive as well.

[MarkBsnr]

Man do I miss calvin and hobbes!

So do I...

[reaganaut]

Hmmm....I have read some of Luther’s works (Shorter Catechism and 95 theses and a few others) but have never read his Vitae. I shall have to locate it.

[delacoert]

Specifically, which church was Woodruff referring to? What year did this statement appear?

see http://www.journalofdiscourses.org/volume-02/

The statement appeared February 25, 1855. It's obvious he is referring to all of Christendom.

[SZonian]

Ain’t FR grand!!??

Ask and you shall receive.

[magritte]

Christendom by definition means the worldwide community of Christians or simply the Christian world. It has absolutely nothing to do with a particular church.

"Modern Christendom" refers to Christianity since the 16th century.

Woodruff gave this sermon in 1855.

It's simple to cut and paste from anti-websites. You don't have to know a darn thing...magritte

[magritte]

Lol...google “Modern Christendom”....learn something...magritte

[Godzilla]

Ask and you shall receive.

Amen, preach it!

[Elsie]

It's simple to cut and paste from anti-websites. You don't have to know a darn thing...magritte

It's simple to cut and paste from LDS-websites; too. You end up learning the most FASCINATING things...ELSIE

[Elsie]

 

Got yer 3 Dollar bill?

 

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THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 89

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.

 

1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.

 

  1 A ^aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—

  2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the ^aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and ^bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

  3 Given for a principle with ^apromise, adapted to the capacity of the ^bweak and the weakest of all ^csaints, who are or can be called saints.

  4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of ^aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of ^bconspiring men in the last days, I have ^cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—

  5 That inasmuch as any man ^adrinketh ^bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.

  6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, ^apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.

  7 And, again, ^astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.

  8 And again, tobacco is not for the ^abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.

  9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.

  10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome ^aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—

  11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with ^aprudence and ^bthanksgiving.

  12 Yea, ^aflesh also of ^bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used ^csparingly;

  13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be ^aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or ^bfamine.

  14 All ^agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;

  15 And ^athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.

  16 All grain is good for the ^afood of man; as also the ^bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—

  17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.

  18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ^ashall receive ^bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;

  19 And shall ^afind ^bwisdom and great ^ctreasures of ^dknowledge, even hidden treasures;

  20 And shall ^arun and not be ^bweary, and shall walk and not faint.

  21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the ^adestroying angel shall ^bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.

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[magritte]

LOL....I actually read the entire sermon for context, looked up some of the references, and got a little understanding of what the statement meant. You don’t even understand the basic definitions or time frames involved. That makes all your cut-and-paste spam worthless...a simple-minded parroting of anti-LDS tracts culled from various places on the internet with no understanding of what they mean...magritte

[Elsie]

That makes all your cut-and-paste spam worthless...a simple-minded parroting of anti-LDS tracts culled from various places on the internet with no understanding of what they mean...magritte

MAybe; maybe not.

But since I DID actually POST something; THAT is what will stick in folks minds; NOT some veiled reference to who knows what.

You wanna counter me?

Then you've got to do some ACTUAL posting!

[killermedic]

Why was I pinged if for no other reason than to heckle me about my beliefs? The folks here on FR who have an issue with anthers beliefs have gone out of the way to ping and stir up contention. This was the ping list compiled by reaganaut in hopes of stirring up trouble. If this is acceptable behavior here on the forum then I withdraw my complaint as well as my membership of FR.

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[Religion Moderator]

killermedic does not want to be on your ping list.

It is good form to drop a name on request.

[reaganaut]

it is resty’s ping list from her profile page. But I drop all who request.

[reaganaut]

This was the ping list compiled by reaganaut in hopes of stirring up trouble.

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This is MINDREADING. It isn’t my ping list, it is Restornu’s from her public profile page. I complied NOTHING.