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To: GiovannaNicoletta

“Same discredited garbage that everybody’s heard before.”

In your opinion.

“Correction. There has never been a man in the history of the world that ruled the entire world and forced everyone on earth to take a number or be beheaded.”

Yes there was. His name was Nero. Read Foxe’s Book of Martyrs. Again, the word “world” means something different today than it did in Jesus’ time. Back then, it meant “Roman Empire.”

But don’t let facts get in the way of a good story.

“You call yourself a preterist.”

LOL! I specifically have REFUSED to let me be called that! If I reject that label that others are trying to pin on me, why would I give it to me???

You have reacted reflexively to this entire topic and have written off the evidence because of the label people - like you - have given it! Again, you’re reacting like a jihadist who’s just seen a compromising picture of Mohammed! LOL!

“The definition of preterism is that all Biblical end-time prophecy has happened in 70AD.”

Again, please point me to the post where I ever wrote such a thing! And while you’re at it, stop with the personal attacks and straw-man arguments!

“If you don’t like the definition of what you believe, that’s not my problem.”

You call me “preterist”, assume that you know everything that I believe, then write my position off as “garbage.” That all sounds like you’re the one with the problem.

“Since none of it was fulfilled in 70AD, then yes, it’s end-time.”

Was Jerusalem destroyed in 70 AD or not? Were the Jews dispersed throughout the world or not? If so, then you have to explain how the many prophecies surrounding this one event were not fulfilled. Good luck! LOL!

“Preterism is a fable, a completely discredited belief, and a joke. Preterism is the Flat Earth Society.”

Good thing I’m not a preterist, then: I’ve only recounted Christ’s words and provided the historical fulfillment of them using history, facts, and evidence.

You’ve offered nothing but insults and condemnation.


135 posted on 07/03/2010 12:59:27 PM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Stingray
Yes there was. His name was Nero. Read Foxe’s Book of Martyrs. Again, the word “world” means something different today than it did in Jesus’ time. Back then, it meant “Roman Empire.”

But the Bible, which sometimes just can't be ignored or discarded, says that Jesus Christ will personally throw the Antichrist and the False Prophet into the Lake of Fire when he returns.

Nero committed suicide. So the Antichrist wasn't Nero. But don't let facts get in the way of a good delusion.

LOL! I specifically have REFUSED to let me be called that! If I reject that label that others are trying to pin on me, why would I give it to me???

But unfortunately your beliefs match exactly those of a preterist. So, I guess it doesn't matter what you want to be called when your beliefs already have a name.

You have reacted reflexively to this entire topic and have written off the evidence because of the label people - like you - have given it! Again, you’re reacting like a jihadist who’s just seen a compromising picture of Mohammed! LOL!

"Reacted reflexively"? Because I refuse to deny and discard Scripture and buy into a belief system that has no basis whatsoever in reality? That's reacting reflexively? No, that's ridiculing your beliefs and you don't like it. That's not "reacting" at all. Thats giving facts and Scripture and getting a reaction. And if you want to equate my defense of God-written Scripture with a "jihadist", you go right ahead. It reflects on you, not me.

Again, please point me to the post where I ever wrote such a thing! And while you’re at it, stop with the personal attacks and straw-man arguments!

Did you not just make a reference to Nero and try to claim he was the Antichrist? Are you confused? Your unBiblical beliefs are obvious to everyone but yourself? Are you serious?

Was Jerusalem destroyed in 70 AD or not? Were the Jews dispersed throughout the world or not? If so, then you have to explain how the many prophecies surrounding this one event were not fulfilled. Good luck! LOL!

Did God bring the Jews back from among the nations into their own land and their own nation which was reborn in 1948 in 70AD? No? Then you need to explain how the end-time prophecies were fulfilled in 70AD! Good Luck! LOL!!!

And Jerusalem being destroyed has nothing to do with events that will occur right before Christ's return and no preterist has ever been able to make that connection. Which is just more evidence that preterism is a joke.

Good thing I’m not a preterist, then: I’ve only recounted Christ’s words and provided the historical fulfillment of them using history, facts, and evidence.

I don't blame you for trying to shed the preterist connection; anyone who is a preterist has no credibility and is written off as a Bible-ignorant, Bible-denying loon.

But, unfortunately, you've made three references to historical events which are the same events that preterists attempt to use as proof that prophecy has already been filfilled. And, like has happened thousands of times before, those references were put in their proper place, which is not in the realm of fulfilled prophecy.

You may want to be careful what you try to claim as fulfilled prophecy. You sound just like a preterist.

You’ve offered nothing but insults and condemnation.

Oh stop whining. You have simply regurgitated preterist nonsense and I have told you that preterism is garbage and I stand by my statement. And I provided links to evidence that nukes preterism. So I have not "offered nothing but insults and condemnation". I disagreed with what you believe and you overreacted.

If what you believe is that shallow and shaky, maybe it's time to reconsider.

137 posted on 07/03/2010 1:23:25 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Stingray

Yes there was. His name was Nero. Read Foxe’s Book of Martyrs. Again, the word “world” means something different today than it did in Jesus’ time. Back then, it meant “Roman Empire.”


WHAT CHEAP
TAWDRY
SHALLOW
IRRATIONAL BIBLE AND HISTORY MANGLING.

I’d be embarrassed even for my screen name to be associated with such irrationality.


153 posted on 07/03/2010 2:25:15 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Stingray; GiovannaNicoletta

THEN LABEL YOURSELF

So far, if it walks like a PRETERIST/REPLACEMENTARIAN duck, flies like a PRETERIST/REPLACEMENTARIAN duck, swims like a PRETERIST/REPLACEMENTARIAN duck, waddles like a PRETERIST/REPLACEMENTARIAN duck, quacks like a PRETERIST/REPLACEMENTARIAN duck . . .


154 posted on 07/03/2010 2:26:57 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Stingray; GiovannaNicoletta; Quix
“Correction. There has never been a man in the history of the world that ruled the entire world and forced everyone on earth to take a number or be beheaded.”

Yes there was. His name was Nero. Read Foxe’s Book of Martyrs. Again, the word “world” means something different today than it did in Jesus’ time. Back then, it meant “Roman Empire.”

The Bible makes it quite clear that no man will be able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast, either on their right hand or on their head. That means EVERY person would have said mark. Nero failed to do that.

Nero also failed to stand in the Temple and declare himself God.

These 2 points alone destroy the Nero theory.

203 posted on 07/03/2010 7:38:56 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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