Posted on 07/02/2010 4:43:38 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
Well known and admired 108 year old Rabbi reveals the Messiah's name!
“Please tell me where you think WE ARE located in God’s Word today.”
The same place where we were when Jesus left the Earth and ascended on the clouds: awaiting His return.
Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect. Matthew 24:44 (NKJV)
People who are looking for signs of Christ’s return are looking in the wrong place for Him.
So we are in the Kingdom today/ with the Gospel of the Kingdom preached and enduring to end to be saved?
The Bible, not all of your sacred man-written books.
And did all of your various Antichrists meet the following Biblical requirements for the Antichrist?
God tells us that the Antichrist will have an image that can speak:
He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive the mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is 666." (Revelations 13:11-18)
Which one of your list of old Roman Empire Antichrists forced everyone to receive a mark in their forehead or right hand and had the technology to create an image of himself that could speak? Where is the Scriptural evidence for that?
And God also tells us that the Antichrist will rule over the entire world, not just the Roman Empire:
And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. Then he opened his mouth in blaspheming against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. And it was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given to him over every tribe, tongue and nation. And all who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." (Revelations 13:1-10)
Which one of your old Roman Empire Antichrists ruled over every tribe, tongue and nation? Where can we find that in Scripture?
Which one of your various Antichrists meets all of the Biblical requirements for the Antichrist?
“So now the Antichrist was Caesar Augustus? Was he thrown alive into the Lake of Fire by Jesus Christ? Where is that in the Bible?”
Again, you keep attributing words to me that I have never written. The point of my post about Caesar Augustus - which you missed entirely - was to get you to understand that the word “world” means something completely different to us today than it did to the people living in Jesus’ time!
But you’re more intent on trying to smear me than you are in thinking these things through.
Get back to me when you understand what “ecumenical” meant in Jesus’ day.
I'm not impressed with all the languages you may know, I'm not impressed with any philosophy you may have learned in college, I'm not impressed with all the books you may have read.
What do you know of Scripture that was revealed to you by the Holy Spirit?
Wow...so many verses, so many out of context quotes.
No wonder you’re confused.
Matthew 24:23-27 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Maybe I missed something...only have dial up so was not able to watch the video but did read the article that somebody posted about this...it does not appear that there is anything but a coded message that the rabbi left to be opened a year after his death that points possibly to Jesus.(based upon the code) If I understand the article correctly he was “visited” around two years before his death and kept the identity of the Messiah a secret until one year after his death...does this line up with Romans 10:9-13...was this man saved from his sins(Paul showed some signs that he was)...I do not now this man so I will leave that up to God, but it does not give me much of a desire to listen to anything he has written...just some thoughts.
God bless
“What do you know of Scripture that was revealed to you by the Holy Spirit?”
Apparently, more than you.
But the word "world" as it had meaning to people in Jesus' time is irrelevant because the Antichrist, who is a future dictator, will rule over the entire globe, not the Roman Empire.
So the meaning of the word "world" as it was understood by the people in Jesus' day could not be more meaningless.
But you’re more intent on trying to smear me than you are in thinking these things through.
This isn't about you. It's about a false belief system. And the belief system needs to be not only smeared, but snuffed out of existence altogether.
Get back to me when you understand what “ecumenical” meant in Jesus’ day.
I couldn't care less about what "ecumenical" meant in Jesus' day because it's irrelevant to the ongoing fulfillment of end-time prophecy.
Scripture is only ever out of context when it contradicts the belief systems of those who cannot validate their beliefs with Scripture.
The Bible nukes preterism. It's as simple as that. And the Scripture listed blows your "Antichrist was Nero, Antichrist was Caesar, Antichrist was whoever I need it to be at any given moment" theories out of the water.
If I misunderstood the point you were trying to make I apologize.
God bless
And you cry about people "smearing" you?
LOL!!
GiovannaNicoletta wrote:
“What do you know of Scripture that was revealed to you by the Holy Spirit?”
I know that what God the Holy Spirit caused to be recorded through His servants Moses and Zechariah He does not reveal many years later to be error to someone else.
Also, I believe Him to be who the Holy Scriptures say He is, the One who leads us into all truth. I also believe He knows what He has caused to be written better than any human being, has written plainly and clearly what He means, never contradicts Himself, and always fulfills what He has promised.
My meaning was that end-time events are occurring in our generation and so rapidly is everything falling into place that anyone who refuses to recognize the reality of what is going on around them and attempts to make the claim that all of the signs that Christ gave for His return happened 2000 years ago has chosen to be "left behind", so to speak, like someone who is still using their 1970 rotary telephone to call the operator to make phone calls for them.
But it's also wrong to use what could have been a typographical error in an article to make the claim that the entire piece is in error.
If all you can do is pick out a word in an article, find fault with it, then declare that because of that, the whole thing is wrong, then it appears as though you dislike what the author has written but can't find the Scripture to make your case as to why you disagree.
Now, maybe that's not the case here. But that's what happens when someone starts nitpicking Biblical languages.
Even native speakers of those languages disagree with how other native speakers use certain words. So just because there may have been a mistake with a word, the cause of which we can't be sure of, does not mean that the entire article is wrong.
GiovannaNicoletta wrote:
“But it’s also wrong to use what could have been a typographical error in an article to make the claim that the entire piece is in error.”
Yes. That is wrong. But I didn’t do that.
I pointed out something that is integral to his argument, about which he twice made the same mistake (which, obviously, shows he didn’t understand it to be a mistake). I chose one error (there are others) that could be discussed with you - I thought - somewhat calmly and rationally, because it is easily verified in a grammar book of Hebrew. It is a clear, simple factual error. And if two people in discussion cannot agree on a clear, factual error, you tell me, what is the point of proceeding?
Your response was, “yawn.” I took that to mean, and correct me if I am wrong, that you weren’t going to bother looking and checking, and that I was being blown off. OK, that is fine, if that is the way you choose to further your case. I responded that I took note of your method of argumentation, that you choose not to be informed. So be it.
Your response was, to say the least, neither calm nor rational. So, I ask you, what is the point in going further when all I received in return was ... well, you go back and look what you wrote, look at it calmly and dispassionately now. How would you characterize it? I wrote in no such way to you.
Thank you for the reply. I am one of those people that see what is coming but also realizes that each generation since Christ were able to point to some of the signs and could think that they were the last generation. Are we the last generation...will my children be the last generation...I don’t know for sure and am not all that concerned to know. From what I see in Scripture I should be aware and be ready for whenever Jesus returns or He calls me home. He is just as likely to call me home at any moment as He is to appear in a twinkling of an eye...either way the important part is to be ready.
God bless
Can we continue tomorrow?
“But the word “world” as it had meaning to people in Jesus’ time is irrelevant because the Antichrist, who is a future dictator, will rule over the entire globe, not the Roman Empire.”
Show me in any of the gospels where the word “anti-christ” is used. Since all your eschatology seems to revolve around him, prove it. Show me where - in Matthew 24 - the anti-christ is mentioned just once!
And the meaning of the word world IS relevant because of the way you and your links interpret the signs, one of them being Matthew 24:14!
If Matthew 24:14 doesn’t refer to the entire world as we know it today, then it throws the rest of your eschatology right out the window!
Or are you now suggesting that the signs Jesus mentioned aren’t relevant, either???
If so, it would appear that you’re the one twisting scripture, not me.
You can continue to mischaracterize my posts and lie about what I’ve written, but why would someone who claims to have intimate revelation provided by the Holy Spirit do that?
Is that what the Spirit is leading you to do? If so, better examine which spirit you’re listening to.
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