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The fight over Book of Mormon geography
Mormon Times ^ | May 27, 2010 | Michael DeGroote

Posted on 05/27/2010 6:44:33 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: svcw

In Judaism, that’s factually incorrect.


381 posted on 05/28/2010 1:19:20 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: donozark

Ok, D. If it makes you feel better to “feel” this is an apology, I’ll accept that.


382 posted on 05/28/2010 1:38:40 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: svcw

My “feelings” have nothing to do with it. Little matters what I think.
It’s an apology. Period. As I said 373 posts ago...


383 posted on 05/28/2010 1:40:17 PM PDT by donozark (Hard to pull chicken teeth...)
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To: donozark

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints issued a long- awaited apology Tuesday for the massacre of an immigrant wagon train by local church members 150 years ago in Southwestern Utah.”

Deseret News. Sept.12, 2007.
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Thats the spin from the mormon owned and content controlled newspaper...

But where are the actual words that were spoken ???

What did Hinckley have to say about it ???

Why was it “a long- awaited apology”

That makes it sound just what it really was

a 2007 version of the 1890 polygamy “proclamation” that meant nothing and was issued by a liar who never obeyed his own “proclamation”

and a 2007 version of the 1978 change in pracice but not doctrine that allowed black (men onkly) to be priests...and there still after all these decades any blacks in the 70, 12, 1st presidency or as the profit...

and still not ONE black woman priest after 32 years...

so here we have more phony baloney lipservice ...

There was no apology ever given for the Mountain Meadows Massacre in which 140 unarmed men, women children and tiny baqbes-in-arms were treachously murdered by faithful mormons at the direct orders of the criminal Briggy Young,

and no perpertrator was ever brought to justice except for the one old scapegoat, John E Lee who was just following orders...

and why have the miserable dishonorable and ghoulish mormons continued to control and descecrate the very cemetery and land that their victims died on after denying them a decent burial for 2 years after the murders, and wont allow the surviving families to erect their own monument or own and care for the area, ???

and why wont the mormons allow the bones to be exhumed and examined to determine who they are and how they died ???

Thats not the normal behavior of apologetic people but rather the stealth and guilt of people with something to hide...

Apologigies inslude openness and honesty...the continual lies of the mormon corporation is outrageous and inhumane and indecent...

Right now the Islamics own the land in NTC and are building their own mosque on the spot where 300 were murdered by their religious cohorts ...

This travesty in Utah equals that callousness and evil...Plus both acts of tyrany and terrorism were perpetrated on 9/11...


384 posted on 05/28/2010 1:42:50 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: count-your-change

2 Kings 6

Famine in Besieged Samaria
24 Some time later, Ben-Hadad king of Aram mobilized his entire army and marched up and laid siege to Samaria. 25 There was a great famine in the city; the siege lasted so long that a donkey’s head sold for eighty shekels [a] of silver, and a quarter of a cab [b] of seed pods [c] for five shekels. [d]
26 As the king of Israel was passing by on the wall, a woman cried to him, “Help me, my lord the king!”

27 The king replied, “If the LORD does not help you, where can I get help for you? From the threshing floor? From the winepress?” 28 Then he asked her, “What’s the matter?”
She answered, “This woman said to me, ‘Give up your son so we may eat him today, and tomorrow we’ll eat my son.’ 29 So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, ‘Give up your son so we may eat him,’ but she had hidden him.”


385 posted on 05/28/2010 1:45:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: donozark

Make that 3,000

Right now the Islamics own the land in NTC and are building their own mosque on the spot where 3,000 were murdered by their religious cohorts ...

This travesty in Utah equals that callousness and evil...Plus both acts of tyrany and terrorism were perpetrated on 9/11...


386 posted on 05/28/2010 1:45:42 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Ooooops!


387 posted on 05/28/2010 1:47:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: donozark

.-)


388 posted on 05/28/2010 1:47:42 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: donozark
“The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints issued a long- awaited apology Tuesday for the massacre of an immigrant wagon train by local church members 150 years ago in Southwestern Utah.”

"We are TRULY sorry that we didn't charge MORE of them; but they said they would 'TALK" if we did."

389 posted on 05/28/2010 1:50:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...))
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To: donozark

Most would at least acknowledge this as an apology.
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I’m sure most mormon would sustain that as an apology if they were told to...

But I’m not a brainwashed abused mormon...

I’m a free Christian and I think for myself, and i am not under cultish orders not to read the accounts for myself...

There was no apology and there never has been...

The mormons just laugh and mock the families of their victims just as Briggy Young laughed and mocked and tore down the first monument that the US Army had erected over the victims naked animal gnawed bodies...


390 posted on 05/28/2010 1:54:03 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

The apology WAS made. Apparently it is insufficient for you and others to accept. Fine. But that does not negate the fact it WAS made. Period.
Most reasonable people would simply state an apology was made, but they don’t accept it or it is insufficient. Fine.
Have we reached sunlight after nearly 400 posts?


391 posted on 05/28/2010 1:54:49 PM PDT by donozark (Hard to pull chicken teeth...)
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To: donozark

Apparently it is insufficient for you and others to accept
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Give up the land or at least sell it for a fair price as a token of sincerity and then we’ll talk...


392 posted on 05/28/2010 1:58:21 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Why on earth would you possibly post that to ME? Do you seriously think I have any control over this parcel of land in UTAH?


393 posted on 05/28/2010 2:00:19 PM PDT by donozark (Hard to pull chicken teeth...)
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To: Elsie

Thanks, that didn’t immediately come to mind with your previous. But I’m still not coming to your house for dinner!


394 posted on 05/28/2010 2:42:22 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: donozark

I have decided to repost to you the article we have been talking about. Notice that the word “apology” appears in the headline and first sentence.
Trying to be objective do you really consider this to be an apology?
I am hoping this helps you out.
There is also a second link about the same issue.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695209359,00.html
http://www.sunstonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/147-74-79.pdf


395 posted on 05/28/2010 2:57:36 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: svcw

Talk about beating a dead horse! It doesn’t matter what EYE think!
And it isn’t I in need of help...


396 posted on 05/28/2010 3:01:00 PM PDT by donozark (RESTRAINING ORDERS ARE JUST ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING I LOVE YOU)
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To: donozark

And you have made my point. Thanks.


397 posted on 05/28/2010 3:04:58 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: svcw

After 400 posts, nearly, please tell us all what your “point” was?


398 posted on 05/28/2010 3:10:07 PM PDT by donozark (RESTRAINING ORDERS ARE JUST ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING I LOVE YOU)
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To: donozark; svcw

I am just guessing here but svcw doesn’t think there was an apology and for some reason you think there was.
I think he made it clearer than the so called “apology”.


399 posted on 05/28/2010 3:25:49 PM PDT by roylene (Don't believe everything you think!)
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To: roylene

,-)


400 posted on 05/28/2010 3:31:32 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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